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This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western classical tradition, from early music, through the medieval, renaissance, baroque, classical, romantic and modern periods.
>How do I into classical?
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Late Liszt
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Why did so many people have trouble appreciating Liszt? Brahms and Strauss at least at one point not positive about his art, though this was turned around completely with Struass, it seems to be a recurrent opinion.
is it just me or does the second act of tristan drag on a bit after melot and the king arrive?
That's because it's still morning for the cultured nations. Burgers killed last thread.
What are some beautiful works for string ensemble (6-12pcs)? Like
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His work definitely isn't as accessible as Chopin's. Or at least Chopin has almost no inaccessible works, whereas Liszt's normie-appealing repertoire is pretty much the consolations and a few other solo piano pieces.
Strauss's metamorphosen, schoenberg's verklaerte nacht
Have heard both and enjoyed Metamorphosen, anything else?
Brahms's string sextets are great
Baroque is so much richer than classical
Yeah kind of, but it's so beautiful seeing Mark's thoughts and reaction to this betrayal, that it seems fine to me.
I much prefer the Baroque era to the classical era, but the classical has its undeniable greats which make the style work.
>Accepit Iesus calicem postquam coenavit, dicens:
>Hic calix novum testamentum est in meo sanguine:
>hoc facite in meam commemorationem.
>Jesus took the cup after they had eaten, saying:
>This is my blood of the new covenant:
>do this in memory of me.
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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE JUST EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. Please, I've asked this so many times and never found an answer, and the wikipedia article and anything else that mentions it only ever does so on the fly without any further elaboration.
Is there a meaningful split in the Ring cycle, between pre and post-Siegfried act 3? Obviously there are differences because he took it up so much later, but is it really a whole change of modus operandi? Some people he cared less about words and just turned it into grand opera. But I'm not sure about any of this.
This line of thought mostly comes from Shaw's "The Perfect Wagnerite." Worth reading the whole thing, but yeah the argument he makes is that the political allegory underpinning the Ring more or less concludes with the "anarchist" Siegfried breaking Wotan's spear - i.e. the symbol of authority of the old order of monarchs and autocrats - and demonstrating his lack of fear towards religion/superstition by traveling through the magic fire. Shaw argues that Gotterdammerung was conceived when Wagner was still writing operas, and though the music was composed later, the plot and themes of the opera are disappointing compared to Rheingold through to Siegfried.
>Wein und Brot des letzten Mahles
>wandelt' einst der Herr des Grales
>durch des Mitleids Liebesmacht
>in das Blut, das er vergoss,
>in den Leib, den dar er bracht'.
>Wine and bread from the Last Supper
>the Lord of the Grail once turned,
>through the power of pity and love,
>into the blood which He shed,
>into the body which He broke.
Ahh okay, I understand it all now. Thank you for the explanation user.
Do you think it's true though? Are the political and religious themes in it more relaxed befitting an entertaining opera?
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What did he mean by this?
It's because he was ahead of his time
What does /classical/ think of Beethoven's The Ruins of Athens?
I do find it quite convincing.
But Wagner was ahead of his time, and he was still privately admired by Brahms.
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Brahms was just jealous because there was a Lisztomania but no Brahmsomania
i went to another one a few months ago but they couldn't help me.
How's your anus?
spasmy but good
But there was Wagnermania towards the end of the century.
Obsessed.
How do I find a Valkyrie gf bros
Rimsky-Korsakov
Would you be brave enough to cross a ravenous fire?
Moszkowski
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I hope white boy asking god nigga for a bigger dick look at his lil thing lmao
I completely disagree. Gotterdammerung shows us how a free spirit like Siegfried actually cannot function in society because once he enters it he is tricked and abused. It reveals to us that the hero is actually Brunnhilde, who is supposed to resist and overcome the curse of the Ring herself instead of giving all that responsability to some supposed hero who she fell in love with. Unfortunately it takes his death for her to realize this.
But the question is, are these themes more ostensible, or just as profoundly deep as in the previous dramas?
Post composer animals.
>dog is literally called Dab Forums
Here's multiple photos of his different dogs:
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I didn't even know there were so many. Also the bigger version of pic related has a dog.
>Wagner named his dogs Russ, Marke, Fasolt and Fafner
I mean he named his son Siegfried so that's not the craziest thing
>tfw couldn't find a single perfect performance of the WTC so I got different preludes and fugues played by different people
Come, superb cat, to my amorous heart;
Hold back the talons of your paws,
Let me gaze into your beautiful eyes
Of metal and agate.
When my fingers leisurely caress you,
Your head and your elastic back,
And when my hand tingles with the pleasure
Of feeling your electric body,
In spirit I see my woman. Her gaze
Like your own, amiable beast,
Profound and cold, cuts and cleaves like a dart,
And, from her head down to her feet,
A subtle air, a dangerous perfume
Floats about her dusky body.
based and spleenpilled
"He cared little for people, preferring cats to human beings.”
“[Debussy’s cats] tiptoed, as usual, through a mass of papers on Debussy’s desk, while he was working.”
“…being permitted to lounge solemnly on the desk and if they so wished, to sow disorder among the pencils.”
Those aren't cats
Dmitri Shostakovich, his daughter Galina, and Galina's pet piglets "Kevin" and "Scott".
Shostakovich's nicknames for the two pigs were "Breakfast" and "Lunch".
No shit
Lmao Galina is chicken is spanish
Harry potter looking ass
>Wien 1952 Kurt Tenner Hector Berlioz Benvenuto Cellini (Sung in German)
He should have called the dog Meyerbeer
Am I a pleb if I often prefer more simplistic and minimalistic stuff over say a complex Bach work
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based chavo del 8
is not you imbecile
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David Hurwitz sinking his big Jewish boomer fangs into HIP again
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Why do you hate Pletnev?