Half of the people here would get their life in order if they listened to him

Half of the people here would get their life in order if they listened to him

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Most depressed people have a fundamental inability to listen to advice

Not because theyre stupid, the depression directly makes them like that

Depressed people cannot envision what a better life could look like so they cant find motivation to ever improve. Imagine having to spend your entire life preparing for life on venus and you know for a certainty youll never go to venus and it will always be impossible to live there. Why the fuck bother preparing to live on venus? Fuck that stupid shit

well thats how depressed people picture advice for getting better. "why improve when ill never be happy" they cant imagine being happy so its hard to improve for nothing

I can't tolerate his round about speaking/writing style and totally boring run of the mill advice that any half way decent dad would give if asked.

sure I'll get addicted to meds and have to get expensive private rehab

>any half way decent dad would give if asked.

Sounds like you have a good dad and you underestimate how passive most dads are. Good for you but most dads absolutely will not give advice like Jordan

At best most dads are boomers that will say "just go into shops and give the manager a handshake and hand deliver your resume to get a job son, its as easy as that"

and at worst theyll berate you for being an underachiever and hate your guts despite being mostly responsible for raising a failure by being too passive a

jp doesn't have some amazing enlightened viewpoint, he's just a fucking machine of a debater. Makes his ideas seem better than they are.

>listening to a hack that seriously recommends cleaning your room as therapeutic.
Why are normalfaggots so delusional to the point of living 24/7 in constant state of denial?

you miss the point. He reasons that your living environment is an extension of your mind and it works both ways

>a depressed person causes a messy environment
>a messy environment causes depression

you cant fix the former by cleaning you room but you can tackle the latter by doing it.

This is why midwits hate jordan. Stupid people are too stupid to question authority figures and smart people understand the nuance behind what hes saying

90-110 IQ people question it without the insight and think its stupid. Midwits! not even once!

I watched some of his video clips, it sounds like a word salad from random psychology 101 textbooks

>they cant imagine being happy so its hard to improve for nothing
We can't because it's factually truth. You can come with all the mental gymnastics you want but if you don't bring actual solutions and not useless platitudes that doesn't works, no one is going to listen to you.
But of course. This is asking society to be responsible, something that never happens because "muh individual" has all the fault even when we fuck him in the ass since born.

Jordan Peterson is an establishment shill. Period!

>This is asking society to be responsible
Why should society be responsible for curing anyone's depression?

>have real depression
>clean my room anyways
Keep licking boots delusional.

his videos are okay, even though its your standard self help stuff
his books on the other hand are absolutely academic garbage

This dude's popularity kinda puts into perspective just how performative "self improvement" really is. Same with Sam Hyde
None of the people who like this guy ever were actually struggling to begin with.
They just like the ideal of being a person who had a Mark Renton level fucked up situation that they climbed out of. So they severely exaggerate how much this guy really helps.
It's also why so many people are now trying to act like porn is the more addictive and damaging to your brain than actual drugs are. It's the closest thing to an addiction they really have.

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You are oversimplifying it retard. Cleaning your room is a sign that you can be fixed and an easy feel-good win for people at the deep end who lack patience and initiative. Good job,now to phase 2.

>Why should society be responsible for curing anyone's depression?
Because it's they fault that anyone has depression. But you are not gonna get it.

I'm more addicted to porn and cooming than I am to weed, alcohol and nicotine.

>You are oversimplifying it retard
How convenient after literally stating that with your retarded blog.
>Cleaning your room is a sign that you can be fixed and an easy feel-good win for people at the deep end who lack patience and initiative.
It has nothing to do with that hack.

Well that hit a little bit too close.

No you're not, you're just a goober.

>How convenient after literally stating that with your retarded blog.
It was not me but some other poster.
>It has nothing to do with that hack.
You need to get to know more about Peterson. He has a degree in Psychology,way different from other Bodybuilders and PUAs turned Gurus but I agree that he somewhat of a self-help shill himself.

>Stupid people are too stupid to question authority figures
Peterson doesn't question the status quo, he's an apologist for it. He actively shills against identity politics and discourages White men (and only White men) from banding together to solve their problems.

Sure i will give it a try. Where should I start?

>It was not me but some other poster.
More convenience.
>You need to get to know more about Peterson.
I know enough to know that he's a hack.
>He has a degree in Psychology
Nothing of value then since psychology is a scam.
Keep coping and deluding yourself from reality.