Dab Forums loves to reimagine villains, so let's have a thread devoted to it. The premise is simple; pick a C-D list villain be they Marvel or DC in origin and let's try and find new ways to make them interesting. Keep in mind the goal isn't purely to make them taken seriously or overpowered like some Death Battle nonsense, but to find their "thing" that makes them fun or interesting to read within canon. Their purpose more or less.
So who's first? Condiment King? Gibbon? Let's hear a few names and go from there.
You could make condiment king dark and gritty and violent to poke fun at that kind of comic book. A self aware dark comedy about how dumb it is to make such ridiculous Characters Grimdark and violent .
Connor Robinson
Make a Batman storyline where the villain behind it all is Eraser.
Isaac Perez
We've already done Condiment King several times. Give us someone else to work with.
Joshua Rogers
I basically post this every time we have this kind of thread but i will say it again- King Krakens design is much too good for him to simply be a background goon. He could be Batman water themed villain, which is a place that isn’t really taken already in Batman's rogues gallery. I wrote a concept for his backstory of him being some deranged loner who basically wants to sink the whole city.
>which is a place that isn’t really taken already in Batman's rogues gallery. Orca and Captain Stingaree say hi.
Liam Taylor
>fury shit and one of Batmans worst villains ever i say bye
Chase Young
How about White Shark. Whose only main gimmick was that he's pale and has sharp teeth. Crazy Quilt? Polka-dot man?
Charles Edwards
you would guess a crazy artist is less of a joke within Batman's rogues gallery. He definitely needs a costume update if you want to make him into a villain that is taken seriously. But i would revamp Crazy Quilt something like this:
>already really eccentric and experimental artist >he uses a special kind of laser technique to create vibrant and colorful sculptures/paintings - that are basically just illusions made out of light. >he manages to create special light waves that result in some kind of mild psychedelic effect if you look at them >of course he goes overboard with this >after more and more people suffer serious side effects because of looking at his art, he gets banned from showing his work in public >he continues to work on his art - he decides he is gonna laser his eyes so that he can experience a wider array of colors >of course that goes wrong. Now he sees the entire world in very bright colors.The entire world now looks like a modern arts painting painted in neon colors to him. >This drives him mad over time >He believes he has achieved peak artistic experience and the people of gotham should see the world just like he does - if they want to or not. >He uses light based illusions in his crimes.
Does Hobgoblin count as C-D List? Going with him anyway. >Hobby gets it in his head that there can only be one goblin themed Spider-Man rogue and sets out to eliminate big Green >Except he keeps doing good things while pursuing his goal (when he fights Green Goblin for the first time, he accidentally blows up a water tower that pours water over a raging fire) so everyone starts thinking he's turned over a new leaf, so he decides to roll with it
Oliver Thomas
Says the guy simping for a less interesting version of a c-list Aquaman rogue.
Throw in a little "sees beyond reality" and you're golden.
Gavin Evans
>Says the guy simping for a less interesting version of a c-list Aquaman rogue Its true love and i will never stop
Jackson Barnes
Shark should fill the role Penguin does in most cases. Being someone who provides equipment and information to every criminal organisation within gotham and thus becomes untouchable for everyone. Humpty Dumpty was the better character out of hif origin story anyway. But Humpty is already perfect and does not really need a revamp.
The OP was clearly accepting to suggestions and also brought up Gibbon. If you have an idea yourself, you're more than welcome to share
Hudson Ross
Instead of having Lex Luthor be a known billionaire or open supervillain, what if he was a Walter White type who created weapons for supervillains and masqueraded as a regular person—his Clark Kent persona, so to speak.
Jaxon Clark
Someone do Nocturna or Dollmaker so that i have something to read when i wake up (unless the thread is dead by then.)
Bonus points if you can make Dollmaker into something other than discount Pyg.
Polka dots origins may lead to interesting ideas. For starters in Medieval Europe polka dots were taboo, seen as an association of disease and sickness given their pattern, color, and association with poxes. In African cultures they're seen as a symbol of male virility and potency. So it may be a bit edge, which is a problem a lot of silly characters fall into when reinvented, but should Polka Dot Man be into pharmaceuticals and viral research? We're here to reimagine losers, not A listers
Gavin Powell
Dollmaker is a anti hero/anti villain who uses his masterful gifts of surgical expertise, plastic surgery, and engineering to heal amputees and the ill with prosthetics - a freak accident results in the renowned Doctor "upgrading" his own body to save himself, and now he roams Gotham's streets like a shadow, attacking and "healing" criminals and the innocent, and his "surgeries" tend to be a fifty fifty of whether or not it's an actual upgrade or downgrade of quality of health... but it's noted that much more sinister criminals tend to be disfigured and warped more than the innocent, or seemingly innocent people with dark or monstrous pasts. Some of his "patients" either go on to be outcast by society as freaks, while some use their new parts to become heroes.
James Martinez
Polka Dot Man has always had an amazing powerset for someone treated as a joke and it looks like Gunn is playing into that with Suicide Squad. Personally, I'd just play him straight as a guy with a weird but powerful powerset and change his appearance to an all-covering, pure white body suit with the polka dots surrounding him like a cloud.
Drop the serial killer thing along with the craziness. Barton Mathis uses cutting edge neurosurgery and brain implants to turn people into automatons for profit. Anything from non-sentient, programmable meat puppets, remote piloted body jacks, personality overlays, to full blown consciousness editing, for enough money he can fully customize a person to your liking. His daughter Matilda is his apprentice, and much to his chagrin is the type who'd rather kludge a couple of homeless people into a multilimbed monstrosity with chainsaw hands and acid spit.
Charles Stewart
Which version of Nocturna? They're all pretty different conceptually.
Adam Young
Id probably make his backstory kind of the same but make it so that he was a cartoonist during the pre crisis time, thanks to Superman starting the age of heroes the general public’s taste in comics died, his publishing company died as well, nobody wanted westerns, romance or comedy comics anymore. When the crisis happened he survived as he was living in the white space between panels. He comes back one day going on a killing spree trying to kill the supermen in the multiverse and trying to die himself as he lives an eternal hell with an existential crisis.
I’d have him be like Boss Smiley from The Sandman version of Prez. Maybe tie him into Morrison’s Little Man from his Action run.
Adam Cox
Seems a little unimaginative.
Zachary Myers
Mitchell DeMayo was an employee at his dad’s restaurant known as Hickory’s Eats. It was there where he helped his dad Hickory DeMayo cook as well as make his famous sauces and condiments. One day, Mitchell had an idea for an ad campaign capitalizing on the super villain culture of Gotham where he’d dress up as a super villain of his design known as the Condiment King and pass out fliers for his restaurant, pretending to threaten them with his ketchup and mustard gun props. Barbara mistook Mitchell for a real super villain, figuring that there was already so many oddball super villains like Mad Hatter and Clock King, that a condiment-themed villain seemed likely and she was taught by Batman to treat all villains as serious threats no matter how silly they may seem on the surface. Barbara ambushed Mitchell and apprehended him without a fight, before Mitchell could explain himself Gotham PD was already in the scene due to Barbara’s preemptive call. Mitchell was immediately sent to Arkham due to his apparent insanity for dressing up as a condiment-themed villain. While at Arkham, Mitchell started an unlikely friendship with Poison Ivy, Pamela being genuinely impressed by his immunity to her toxins due to a lifetime of being exposed to strong, exotic spices and herbs giving him a natural resistance to such things. During his short time there, Mitchell got to know some of the other inmates, coming face to face with giants like Mister Freeze and Scarecrow, who were all amused by his stunt. After Mitchell was released, he decided to start an underground restaurant, one that catered to super villains, thus was born Condiment King, feeder of Gotham’s most evil scum! His restaurant quickly became popular with the criminal underworld but he would gain notoriety in the media, especially the internet due to becoming crime’s number one chef and for his outrageous appearance.
I don't know what I like more, the idea of Penguin and White Shark having a rivalry, or the idea of them working together in a black market alliance
Sebastian Sanchez
Working together, but they hate each other and are constantly looking for a way to screw over the other.
David Torres
Frankly it shouldn't be hard to make a shark themed villain interesting, and yet Warren is super dull. Anything could be an improvement
Anthony Hill
I got a bunch of these posted so might as well dump em here
Here's how I would structure Gotham's organized crime, for a start, if I got to write Batman.
>The Ventriloquist: The last of the "old line" mobsters, connected by family who knew everything and everyone from the pre-Batman days. Most of what was left of those empires was seized by Scarface, and a good chunk of Gotham still owes them favors. Scarface could genuinely be the most dangerous and untouchable of the Gotham crimelords if it wasn't for Wesker's troubled personality holding them both back. Wesker desperately wants out of the mob legacy that fell on his lap, but Scarface has big plans for this city and he won't let no dummy stand in his way.
>Black Mask: The False Face Society is comprised of oldies and newbies alike, but Sionis himself is mostly a figurehead. His lieutenants handle most of the work while Roman works primarily as a cult leader that rallies morale and orders assassinations. My version of Black Mask would be more in line with the original Moench character, a posturing and overdramatic pulp/noir villain whose cause resonates with many of the Gothamites who wish to be powerful and respected like the madmen in masks that rule the city.
>Two-Face: After his transformation into Two-Face, Harvey took to the streets and decided to fight the gangsters who ruined his life on their turf, having more success in doing so than he ever had as D.I. Like the Golden Age version, he often commits good, charitable deeds on the flip of a coin, and these Robin Hood antics, alongside his former status as Gotham's White Knight, and the fact that statistically half the time he's not such a bad guy, makes it so that Two-Face has a lot more loyal goons and informants and sources of revenue than the average crimelord. On the downside, Two-Face is unpredictable, often blows the payment of his goons on other things, and is actively hated by many other criminals. It's always a 50/50 with him.
>Penguin My Penguin is more supervillain than crimelord, but he's still the linchpin of organized crime in Gotham. The sheer amount of resources, contacts and information makes it so that all the other crimelords agree it's best to keep him alive, and although his pompous behavior and comical image makes many disdain him, everyone agrees that Cobblepot is best let alone, secure in his nest of power. Acts as the mediator between the city's crime bosses as well as the "freaks" of Gotham.
>Rupert Thorne Against all odds, Thorne managed to survive the fall of the rest of Gotham's reigning crime lords, and even managed to thrive for a while. Thorne is the common class of criminal, a chief reason why most of Gotham's institutions are fundamentally corrupt. People like the mayor may not listen to Scarface waving a tommy gun in his face, or Cobblepot waddling around blowing smoke everywhere, but they'll listen to their good old friend Thorne. Even though most of the rogues hate Thorne, and Thorne hates that he has to live off their scraps, the bloated toad persists either way.
>Warren White Despite being ostensibly new, The Great White Shark was able to secure himself among Gotham's chief bosses by operating the Crime Exchange within his headquarters in Arkham Asylum, running his empire much like a business and ensuring that, no matter which new hot shot declares himself the King of Gotham this week, he'll always have a system in place to keep him on top. Warren is a sleazy Saul Goodman / Hades type, becoming much more likeable and charismatic after turning into a bleached shark person. He and Penguin have the most power over the system that allows Gotham's hyper organized and super crime to thrive. They play up a rivalry, but it's really just an act to keep the others off their fins. They are not friends, but they do good business together.
That's it for the head honchos, but there's other figures like Fay Gunn or The Calculator that have their own niches.
We had an amazing discussion on Cavalier once and I saved the ideas on that thread because they were all gold. I'll post em here
Cavalier is a character who needs no big reinvention, he just needs someone to use him.
He's a fun character, sure. He's all about dashing heroics and art thefts, he stops mid-crime sprees to help old ladies cross the street, he never quite became as big as Bill Finger hoped he would be but he obviously has his niche. But these days Batman villains don't get taken seriously unless they are mass murdering dark mirrors to Batman, so at least some bigger thematic depth might be needed. So let's try that.
Take a look at the Batman villain who runs around acting like Zorro, a guy to whom Zorro meant the world when he was at his lowest point. The character that, whether he understood it or not, provided to him the context that he'd live his entire life by: evil exists and needs to be countered, so put on a mask and go fight it to protect the innocent. Bruce knew exactly what he was going to become after his parents murdered and spent his life working towards becoming a living ideal to fight crime. A living ideal fighting crime was the last thing imprinted on him before his world crumbled, and when he spent years picking up the pieces to be reborn as a bat, he was following the footsteps of the one who modeled himself after a fox. He still values Zorro a lot, given he has the Robins watch it with him as family time.
Putting aside the sheer insult that is dressing up and imitating Zorro to fight Batman, Zorro's role in the Batman mythos is defined by inspiration. Even outside of it, Zorro was a huge influence on superheroes as well as the pulp heroes that inspired them. Why not take that, and turn it towards evil? Why not take the role Zorro plays in Batman's life, and distill it into a character who is just as inspirational and reassuring to criminals as the Fox was to Batman?
Taking the Zorro analogy further: His main crime is stealing art. Art theft isn't just something the Joker does for funsies in the Adam West show, it's the NUMBER ONE way people in high society traffic in illicit funds. Who would suspect a renaissance era painting to have been encoded with a cryptocurrency wallet by a russian mobster? Maybe someone that knows such pieces, and can tell that they've been altered or "touched up" at a glance. There's a lot that can be done with it, even outside the art pieces being used as tokens.
In depriving them of these pieces, Cavalier IS Zorro, striking back at the decadent rich who ruin lives. He is Robin Hood, the ur-example of a vigilante, the progenitor of the archetype that eventually spawned Batman. Is the bigger insult that Cavalier essentially is Zorro, or that he's the Zorro that Bruce SHOULD be in that one aspect? That he's closer in ways to the pure ideal of a vigilante than even Batman? That Batman is so far removed from the common man compared to his forerunners that said forerunners can only appear in Batman stories as villains, because otherwise they undermine Batman's heroism.
Cavalier's niche as an unrepentant old-school villain not only gives him an edge, not only can it have a modern slant to it while still retaining charm, it should make him more fresh than ever, because such old-school villains plain don't exist anymore. They don't survive in Gotham, they shouldn't survive, and then there is Drake. Who is nowhere near the huge figure of Gotham's underworld he might wish to be. He's never going to reach the status of guys like Joker and Penguin. He's not the smartest or most well-connected, or the strongest. He is just a guy in a costume.
Being a guy in a costume is also the power behind Gotham's greatest champion.
Just as Batman is, in theory, just a guy in a costume who nevertheless powers through scenarios and tussles up at the level of gods, and is widely beloved in our world for it, so is The Cavalier for Gotham's citizens. A lot of them look at him and just see another dumb bastard in a cheap costume swordfighting with Batman, and that's exactly what he is. But when the people of Gotham think of giving up, they may look at the stubborn bastard in a cheap costume swordfighting Batman, and they see the underdog putting up a good fight despite being hopelessly outmatched. They may think, hey, I can be special too, I don't have to be lesser, I can be like the colorful heroes and villains I read about on the news all the time, all I gotta do is put myself out there. Sometimes putting yourself out there may be shooting up places in a Halloween costume, and sometimes they may be dressing like Superman to visit kids in hospitals. You never know, there's room for different stories based on a villain whose main skill is merely his ability to inspire.
He is, in essence, an extremely effective cheerleader. His theatrical flair, daring Errol Flynn acrobatics, choice of targets, and sheer passion for his criminal life style are effective in rousing up criminals of all kinds, and most importantly, his complete inability to take a defeat lying down, his sheer stubborn refusal to give up without a fight, ends up being genuinely inspiring. Should there be a gathering of minor Batman villains looking to improve their lot, ala Superior Foes, Cavalier should be the leader. Not the smartest, strongest or most effective, but the one who reminds them all why they are still fighting. The guy who's passionate about supervillainy the way no one else is, and hey, maybe there is something to it after all, if Drake cares so much about it he'll happily break his teeth on Batman's fist if it means he gets to keep leaping through rooftops and fighting.
Also another idea that got brought up, his main skill being swordplay. How many people, criminals included, are trained to handle a guy with a sword? Sure, Batman goes up against ninjas, and wannabe ninjas and knights like Deathstroke on occasion. But Cavalier IS a cavalier. Not many are trained in olympic sport fencing, let alone the subtle arts of european dueling. From the Spanish rapier, to the Italian dual blade form, the Hungarian saber, there are many forms that are so underrepresented in comics. Cavalier could champion them all.
Make him proficient in pretty much every form of swordplay imaginable the way Batman is supposedly a master of every martial art imaginable (which is bullshit but it's comics).You could even do some pretty fun stuff with Cavalier knowing forms of swordplay that don't even exist. >Huzzah! I bet even a veteran such as yourself has never come up against the ATLANTIAN SWORDFISH STYLE >Behold! Secret techniques plundered from the beauties of Themyschira! THE MEDUSA GLAVE DANCE >You've forced me to unleash my most hidden secret, the 5TH DIMENSIONAL SPADROON! Even I cannot control it!...Oh god please help me Batman I can't control this thing anymore
I didn't write all of these, I took them from stuff I wrote and suggestions anons posted. Don't think I could ever really claim credit for it if I ever tried taking these ideas somewhere, but here you go, that's the kind of stuff I'd like to see in Cavalier stories.
>Too lazy to come up with real name but keep name Eraser >Art student specializing in Human Form >Much to his dismay he can’t seem to achieve results he wants of photo realistic art, instead he always seems to produce form of abstract art >Professor suggests maybe pursuing abstract art, says what he makes is great but it’s just not realism >Blind fury Eraser grabs nearest object an Eraser and violently rubs all over professors face leaving burns and cuts and scrapes >Flees and goes into hiding >Hears about Professor Pyg and how he transforms people >Seeks him out for “treatment” wants his brain to work “right” and wants to be able to draw realism >Pyg instead instead sees the potential in Eraser as an artist in his own right >Grafts helmet to his head that looks like end of pencil and snaps his already fragile mind >Eraser becomes obsessed with warping people into looking “normal” assaults models and makes their faces more “abstract”
Mole Man. Turn the molemen that he summons into eldritch horrors that crawl out of the pits of hell. Makes way more sense than them just being subterranean faggots. Make the molemen God’s first attempt at creating humans and subsequently being banished to hell for being too stupid and violent. Mole Man could share a rogue strand up DNA with them, thus allowing him to tear open a dimensional gate and summon them to do his bidding.
>>Huzzah! I bet even a veteran such as yourself has never come up against the ATLANTIAN SWORDFISH STYLE
This makes me want to see him fight Damian in a seafood restaurant. And win.
William Ortiz
Since we are bringing up FF villains >The Wizard wanted to be a hero in the 1950s before the fantastic four ever came onto the scene, being inspired by the likes of the defenders as a child during WW2,Bentley used his resources and superhuman iq to build himself a suit and gadgets and called himself “the wizard” on his first day he tried to save a city from one of the many monsters that were coming up at the time. Bentley failed and an entire city was decimated, thousands of people dead because of his ignorance. Years passed and the fantastic four came onto the scene, Bentley was bitter towards them as they became the textbook definition of something Bentley wasn’t.
Brilliant. That kind of trauma would break any man.
Colton Russell
For Diablo you could make him into this warrior that is the Reed Richards of alchemy and is a master strategist after living through so many wars.
Connor Morales
I remember that thread. The problem is that such a setup requires him to be as good as, or better, that Batman at something, and no one is allowed to be better than Batman at anything. That being said, I just can't help but find the fact that Cavalier is a deep closet gay guy who runs around as a camp and theatrical supervillain that is in a relationship with a gay pirate and whose motivation for villainy is antiquing incredibly charming. He could be a fantastically well-rounded character if not for the fact that he's stuck in the worst possible book.
Also, I forget, was that the thread that also had the Nightwing villain revamps?
Luke Perry
I always wanted to write a Spider-Man run and having Scorpion be a Terminator of sorts. You hit him but he keeps coming. You run away but he keeps coming. Just a relentless killing machine Spider-Man would have to think outside of the box to defeat. I figure his private dick past could be used to make him all the more terrifying what with stalking people and gathering intel.
Jacob Parker
*hit him with all you've got My bad,
Julian Russell
I would watch the hell out of this series or keep up to date with every issue.
Blake Taylor
I actually love this
Anthony Jackson
bump
Mason Carter
>and no one is allowed to be better than Batman at anything Cassandra Cain. Scott Free. Pretty sure both Tim and Babs are better hackers. Plenty of people are better than Bruce at something, mostly because they're more autistic about that one thing than Bruce can afford to be. So I can see Cavalier being able to out-duel Batman, or at least hold on long enough to attempt an escape.
Noah Cruz
Jack O'Lantern
Cade O'Leary was not too different from Peter Parker - they grew up similarly, with Cade being raised by his loving grandparents after his parents died on Halloween in a car accident. Cade grew up with an obsession over Halloween and costumes - deep down, the deaths of his parents (namely the decapitation of his mother) struck fear into his soul, and he enjoyed it, he wanted to replicate that feeling by becoming what scared people and feeding off of the emotional high, and therefore took on an appearance that would be fitting of that Halloween night and the headless image that scarred him...a Jack O Lantern for a Headless Horseman. For years he would willingly cast himself out of school, scaring and disturbing his classmates and neighbors with different costumes and masks, until finally being motivated to complete his masterpiece of a costume after seeing Spider-Man in action, and now stalks Queens... hoping he can scare even the Web Slinger, and finally get a bigger high than ever.
>eventually Cade goes on to steal and loot off of Hobgoblin and Green Goblin, and actually loses his head for real, using magic to make his pumpkin helmet into his actual head.
>Cade is a fan of cosplay and a master of disguise, and tends to piss of Mysterio for his expertise in costuming and design. Whenever he's not playing villain, Cade sells cosplay crafts online to make a living and goes to cosplay events and hero/celebrity impersonation contests. Despite being a criminal, he has a fanbase that supports his endeavors.
Cade also doubles in helping out with costume manufacturing for new villains, and is a fashion master - he's even collaborated with Kingsley for sweet sweet dough. Cade is a BIG villain fanboy.
Dominic Baker
Bumping this for more.
Ethan Perez
This sounds rad
Ian Sanders
Mad Mod- Like the Teen Titans cartoon make him a campy parody of the 1960s British Mod shtick. Sort of make him DCs version of Arcade combined with the Jigsaw Killer who kidnaps people then sets them up in elaborate death traps.
Cooper Morris
>Asbestos Man Be Orson Karloff, go to empire state university. Be genius at chemistry. Make friends with Physics student Reed Richards. Be nice to Von doom but he's an absolute dick. You believe Asbestos still has a place in everyday use, it just needs to be made safe. One day you're in lab experimenting, Reed and Doom come in. They're dicks, looking down on your chemistry. Tell you Asbestos is stupid and will never be safe. Have freak-out tard moment, you love Abestos!. Doom laughs whilst Reed awkwardly leaves. Doom calls you a faggot and then walks out. You sigh and lean against your table. Quickly take a nap. When you wake up you find your experiment has been tampered with. Shit's all over you. Those fucking idiots! Just like doom and richards to give you cancer to prove you wrong. Go to doctors, say you have asbestos poisoning. They find nothing, you're perfectly healthy. Nigga what? Whatever, you leave and light a cigarette. Wait...you put your finger on the lit lighter. You felt nothing. Take it off. Put it on again. Shit. Nothing. Go to the lab to run tests. Find qt blonde from your class, she never notices you. "Hey, Orson right? You're the asbestos guy?" She says kindly. You talk. God she's so hot. And...into me? Holy shit. Eventually you get her number.
Cut to the two of you dating, her names Stacy, Stacy Stanford. She's interested in your work. The two of you go on many dates. You barely see Reed and Doom again. You find that your body is fireproof. Huh, that'll be useful for like one or two times in your life. Maybe you should be a firefighter. Confess your ability to Stacy. Says it's your responsibility to use it to better mankind, however that doesn't mean being a superhero. You both graduate. Whilst posing for photos you get on one knee. You get engaged. Years go by. You get married! You and Stacy study your biology, seeing if they can make something that turns everyone fireproof. On your bithday the two of you have a simple dinner at home, Stacy tells you to stop smoking inside, her coughs gotten bad this past few months. "Do you need to see a doctor?" You ask worried. She smiles. "Actually I've already seen one...just not about a cough". She slides you a positive pregnancy test.
Months go by. Stacy's cough gets worse. A lot worse. Her pregnancy continues, the doctors examine her lungs just in case.
Cancer. Cancer all throughout her lungs. And her pancreas, liver...uterus.
Doctor tells you both the news. What does this mean for the baby? You ask. Then Stacy starts throwing up blood. They rush her to the emergency ward. Blood is coming from her mouth, her ears...her vagina. She screams and wails in pain, you watch as the love of your life forces the baby out of her. Well, that thing was more tumour than child. The last thing Stacy sees is you cradling her dead malformed fetus.
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Jackson Sanders
A week goes by, you buried her but didn't even go to her funeral. You knew it was you that caused this. You didn't want anyone else to get hurt because of some stupid accident from years ago. You killed the love of your life.
Or did you? You hear on the radio "Congratulations for Reed and Susan Richards of the fantastic four, welcoming their first child into the world!"
Reed. It was him. He tampered with your experiment! Always thinking he was smarter than everyone!
Stacy was right. It was your responsibility to use your powers and intelligence for the good of mankind. The only way to save the world...was to save it from Reed Richards. And whilst you're at it, take away from him what he took from you.
Revenge, altruism...it was all the same now. Nothing else was left in your cold dead heart.
Adrian Butler
preferably the non-vampire versions
Levi Campbell
I'd like to combine the OG Space Ghost with the AS Space Ghost. SG sees himself as the world's greatest superhero. His arrogance has left him with no friends and few villains as they all have stopped committing crime because he's so annoying. The spark for costumes heroing has left him, and wishes that there was something he could do that really mattered. Then, after catching a late night talk show filled with jokes trashing American politics he sees who the true heroes are. He becomes inspired to ditch costumed vigilantism and turn to a life of costumed talk show hosting. He brings (kidnaps) a rag tag group of previous villains to be his crew as he travels the galaxy searching for events where his snide remarks can truly help those in need.
Jaxon Phillips
Bumping in case anyone has more ideas
Julian Sullivan
I don't know much about the character but i like themed villains. And as far as i know Batman does not really have an Electric themed villain, that works better. So what i know is that the Electructuioner has his origins in executing criminals. Kind of like punisher right?
I think he should stay as some kind of “out of control” vigilante. Maybe he grew up in a rough neighbourhood within gotham. He got tired of all the mob bosses and gang leaders taking advantage of everybody. But he does not have much to his name so he uses really rudimentary tools to become a crimefighter. He has some kind of experience as a boxer, as that was his main hobby growing up and he learned some electrical engineering through the Internet and community college or whatever. So he basically builds his own superhero suit and his Electroshock gloves in his own garage.
But I would want him to be a more realistic depiction of what a comic book vigilante would be. He does not have a strict code he follows - he is kinda led by his own emotions and does whatever seems right to him in that current situation. And because he is just an average guy and not a super genius billionaire, the mob gains the upper hand on him. So he ends up working for the mob just as much as he works against them (probably even more). Someone who had good intentions to start with but the world he lives in does not allow for good intentions. Now he is hard to distinguish from the kind of criminal he initially wanted to stop.
