Can we have a thread of fanart Japanese artists made of western shows?
Westaboo Thread
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Bumping for visibility. I had no idea westaboos existed and now I'm interested
Do you ever think there’s a group of cartoon elitist In Japanese circles?
God I hope not
Korean and Chinese artists are ok too
I heard some Koreans in particular are are sort of like that
>I heard some Koreans in particular are are sort of like that
That wouldn't surprise me, since koreans do half the work on a lot of American cartoons.
Westabo: “why do Americans get to have this? God it’s so unfair!”
for the best cartoons, maybe.
the best cartoons > the best anime
but
mediocre anime > mediocre cartoons
As an Asia fags i can tell you, westaboo is a rare breed here. Most of them only like cartoon movies and stuff like that - Spiderverse, Justice League, Frozen....etc- the seasonal shit is considered kid stuff and not many people are fond of them
Why are asians so good at art? Is it the auts??
With how little free time they usually have most of the time, I wanna know too. It has to be something in the water that just distills art skills or fucking something
I think it has a lot to do with culture. If you look at certain values in Japanese culture you will see why they are especially well equipped for cartooning. Look at the art styles the east tends to make and gravitate towards vs. what the west does and think about why. Japan appreciates small clean things and understands that big expression can be conveyed using simple effects.
higher iq. thats all it is
western porn artists are better
like who? shadman? he's got really bad anatomy and shading and no appeal at all
alke, jcm2, drock, jjf, splooge, simon etc.
>Western porn
>Good
Nigga you joke. I can count the time i jerked my meat to western shit on one hand
only alke and jcm2 are good from that list, the rest are worse than the average asian artist,
>the rest are worse than the average asian artist
never gonna make it
>Pick one name out of that list
>Google Simon porn comic
That fucker anatomy is a fucking disaster, how the fuck can you cum to this? Everything looks like blobs. Personal opinion but he draws dicks like shit too
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i think you got the wrong simon
he never did porn comics
Then why the fuck that nigger mentioned him as a good porn artist
Splooge is Japanese.
because he fucking is
he also is a cartoonist too on the sfw side of the internet
he did erotic illustrations back in the day
There's tons. Also Mabel Pines from Gravity Falls was a Westaboo Darling so Dab Forums will have to eat shit.
Really?
Is there a source?
Rock a bye baby, wait, how do you say that in japanese?
Too bad a lot of the well drawn art of her doesn’t make an attempt to stick to the original design
Like regardless of “cal arts” just making her into another generic anime girl feels soulless
Totally fair and true and valid but let's be honest, the Japanese just want their Genki Girl.
i wasn't born asian so my ngmi fate was determined the moment i came out of the womb
simon is a lot better recently, i remeber his work looking really shitty not that long ago. i'd still say the average asian artist is better than him though
I've chatted with him a few times. He's Japanese. He has a sub-5 digit pixiv account. He has been a fixture on 2chan and the oekaki board here for a long time, probably before many of you even started browsing Dab Forums. You're just rediscovering him.
You won't get anything concrete because, unlike this new era of porn artists whoring for commissions and patrons, the guy draws for fun and for the entertainment of the board. There isn't even a single complete collection of his stuff online, be it the-collection or sadpanda.
>average
who's this average asian artist who's better than him
this is an example art of an average asian artist
if you think it's better then i really don't know what to tell you
but yeah simon's art was wonky a long time ago but it was still more unique and energetic than any average asian artist, he's in a complete league of his own now where only best of the best could come close to him when it comes to cartooning and style in particular, sure there are better "illustration" artists in asia, china in particular who can render shit like no one else
but he's a standout when it comes to Dab Forums and related art and how anyone can say otherwise is beyond me
I found this doujin very recently pixiv.net
can simon even colour at all and not have it look like mud?
I know his history but that's not really proof and I won't just buy "oh yeah i totally know and talked to him".
I'm willing to agree he's ambiguously unknown, he can be someone from continental asia who was both a weeb and a westaboo.
But he's primarily known for western style art and its contents.
can you link his pixiv? i havent ever seen it mentioned anywhere online.
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I don't know what looks like mud to you
he likes warm and earthy tones but that's not a negative
What you see depends on the board.
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here's another
splooge goes by motamotahead now, well for a long time now
>western style art
There's a difference between western style drawing, and western designs. Splooge works with western designs, but his art is by no means western style.
his art is by no means asian style either at all if that's what you're driving at
not even a little
apart from the photo studies it just looks like he's smearing poo colours on an overlay layer rather than actually colouring. if only he actually applied what he learned from copying the photos to his art it would look a lot better. also is he even western?
fresh new pic
I don't know what else to say other than that you're wrong, but I acknowledge I can't refute you if you're dead set on it. If pixivchat was still online, I might have pointed you to replays where he writes in Japanese.
Man I still remember first seeing his stuff on r34 all those years ago. It's amazing to see guys like fluffy and Splooge still going and making really cool art.
Again, I know japanese, that doesn't mean I'm japanese
I was just weeb enough when I was 14 to start learning it, it's not a legitimate proof of anything
like i said he can be continental asian or anything really, we can agree to disagree
but what you posted has nothing to do with asian style
and again if you look at his pawoo page all his art looks western styled at the very least, why do you think he chose the subject for his art to be that, because he likes it no matter what race he is and it reflects in his style
ixy on the left has asian style art, splooge doesn't
>JCM2
>JJF
>good
Like ignoring the content, their artwork overall feels off to me. Also looks like thread got derailed kek
>feels off
I don't know what that means to you.
It looks good artistically, it reads well and it's appealing.
What else is there to being good.
>but what you posted has nothing to do with asian style
Your perception of anime style is informed by what's common now, when his stuff reflects more of what was done in children's anime in the 70 and 80s. Frankly that makes a better case, kids these days only copy the new stuff, not retro.
>Also looks like thread got derailed kek
Why
Oooo found a korean artist.
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>Your perception of anime style is informed by what's common now
That is what makes a style.
The thing that is common now, perception creates reality.
If the asian style of old cartoons is THE asian style then it makes no sense, because what is actually drawn by asian people now is not asian style in that case which is a dumb case to argue.
and besides 70/80s children's anime copied the disney style and the general style of western cartoons so it's still western even by that regard.
it only became distinctly asian when it deviated from it into what's more common today, aka ixy's style or anime style, aka style used by 90% of asian artists from japan, china and korea etc.
while the toon/cartoon style also used by some chinese/korean/japanese artists that are few and far between, like mossa, is known as the western style now
go to JCM2's pixiv, dude is a god tier painter underneath all that fake anime crap he does
he's pretty good but not quite god tier
he's still learning
you chose a bad example
i chose the most recent study he did
which just shows he's still not very experienced
some things are better but still his overall technique is not quite there
who is a god tier artist to you? just curious so i can compare what you mean
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any pro in the industry at this level like ruan
old masters
loomis
etc.
you get the idea
jcm2 is a decent hobbyist, but i wouldn't call him "god tier", that's reserved for you know... god-tier painters
oh right, makes sense i guess
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>who is a god tier artist to you?
Not the user you’re responding to and I know this is an unfair comparison but when someone mentions God-tier artists, I usually think of lads like Bernie Wrightson or any other artists of his caliber.
its so annoying how many dumb westerners shit up the pixiv tags
Does this artist draw cuntboy bugs?
what the fuck is a "cuntboy"
You know dickgirls? Now think of the opposite of that.
truth
Guy with pucci
Opposite of guy with tits
isn't that just a reverse trap? what's with all these bullshit names?
reverse trap is a girl dressed as a guy
cuntboy is a boy with a pussy, it's the opposite of a dickgirl
you mong
but boys can't have pussies? what are you on about
neither can girls have dicks
welcome to the internet i guess, what made you think of getting it for the first time in 2021 gramps
hieroglyphic writing system
...
westaboo?
more like wasteboo.
I'm suddenly ships these two.
user its a fuckin westaboo thread. Not a thread about diapers, or sbbw/ssbbw, or fuckin shortstacks or futanari.
>and besides 70/80s children's anime copied the disney style and the general style of western cartoons so it's still western even by that regard.
Tezuka was influenced by Disney. But even then, he still had his own recognizable style. Tezuka was not the entire manga/anime industry. In terms of animation style and everything else, anime wasn't anything like Disney either.
Stop trying to take credit for other people's work.
Dont' care, go to later back to >kek
We don't care man, shut up
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i always thought he was hispanic or something based on this drawing he did of himself
lol western porn is a joke
>Japanese artists
A good chunk of their fanart looks like generic anime stuff. Korean and Chinese westaboos are superior.
this
mossa is best westaboo
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>Japanese artists make art that looks Japanese
Incredible. How can they do this.
>all japanese art is generic
outstanding opinion user
It's not surprising, it's simply boring. When I want to look at anime sameface, I look at real anime.
I never said that.
Things don't look the same just because you can't tell the difference, and there is more to art than just making different faces.
>I never said that.
>their fanart looks like generic anime stuff
>their fanart looks generic
>looks generic
>Japanese artists make art that looks Japanese
Yes you did say that, maybe read your message before posting next time.
That wasn't my post. My post was
Wow user you really have trouble with reading comprehension.
Are you ESL?
Why do you people always pull the ESL card when you lose an argument or fuck something up?
>Things don't look the same just because you can't tell the difference
But I can tell a difference, I'm pretty good at it actually. It doesn't change the fact that anime art style is extremely homogeneous, especially the moeblob-ish type of style that's often used in Japanese westaboo fanart.
>there is more to art than just making different faces
Sure, but anime style is all-around sameish.
Moeblobs are not a real thing. You definitely don't know what you are talking about.
>Sure, but anime style is all-around sameish.
Your inability to tell the difference between X and Y does not mean X and Y are the same, and it's the obsession with being unique for unique's sake that has ruined Western art.
Okay I'll take that as a yes and explain it you then if you want to be difficult.
That user said.
>A good chunk of their fanart looks like generic anime stuff
That means he thinks that Japanese make fanart that can be good but their fanart often looks generic.
Then you replied.
>Japanese artists make art that looks Japanese
Again, he said.
>good chunk of their fanart looks generic
You said.
>make art that looks Japanese
So what you said by replying that is
>Japanese artists make art that looks generic
Saying that the generic fanart they make is what Japanese fanart looks like and you're confused why that user finds anything wrong with that.
Now try to improve your reading comprehension ability before repeating this mistake again.
Was it autism?
>Okay I'll take that as a yes
I'll take that as a "yes, I did lose the argument."
No he's just ESL.
I don't know. I've never heard of autism making people unable to tell different things apart.
No, that was
are you NEW?
Why are ESLs always so deflecting when called out?
Is it so hard to admit?
I mean I get that you want to try and play it off in a "haha no u" kind of way but like really?
Is it that shameful?
Nah, but we really got better in the past years. Maybe we can catch up with the japs in a decade
>futashit
>looks like a twink
Why are closeted gays in japan always hiding behind futa?
You lost the argument.
I explained quite clearly where your mistake was.
Is your language skill not good enough to "get it" so you think it makes no sense?
Are you just upset?
Like I'm trying to help you out here.
Show me where you think it's wrong and I'll elaborate further.
You lost the argument. I didn't read your "explanation."
Okay so you are just upset then.
Well then I can't help you out here, I'm sorry it feels so bad to lose an argument.
I tried explaining, but if you're not gonna read it then whoop-de-doo, maybe another time.
I'm not upset, I'm just pointing out the fact that you lost the argument.
Well that's okay.
Feel free to ask where you lost it and I'll re-iterate it any time.
I'm always lurking.
Take some time to relax.
You lost the argument.
Take your time.
There is no time needed. You lost the argument.
You'll come around, ESL-kun.
It happens.
You lost the argument.
Take a bath with some nice scented candles.
It helps me.
Wow that might be it. Learning intricate symbols and complicated muscle memory is ingrained in them from childhood
I'm sure you need help, since you lost the argument.
No you did, and the sooner you come with that fact the sooner sweet help can arrive.
But no rush.
You lost the argument.
It won't become true by just repetition.
But you know what will? Your improved English skills!
You lost the argument, and the more you keep posting the more you admit to losing.
Nah, to lose an argument you need to provide something that would disprove it.
I provided that but you just need to read it and realize your mistake.
Or maybe you already did and just don't want to admit it, thus there's this "you lost the argument" parroting you keep repeating?
It's entertaining either way.
You lost the argument.
Refer to the .png
I can't post it twice, man.
I didn't look at your image. You lost the argument.
Well I think you really should because this is getting funnier by the minute.
>do smug people exist
gee, i fucking wonder user.....
You lost the argument.
Worth pointing out that the next Toonmix is happening in a week. Japan must have a pretty good handle on corona if doujin events are allowed to be back on.
Thank you for these amazing screencaps.
I'm gonna go share the laughs and make some food but I'll be back in a few hours so please reply back when you've read the part where I explain where you have lost... the dun dun dun argument.
Shocker I know, but thanks love.
You are not going to be screencapping anything. You are not going to be laughing. "Haha I'm having so much fun right now" is a classic Dab Forums cope for losers. You lost the argument.
well some serious autistic faggots ruined this thread
Ssh, they finally stopped, don't provoke them.
Whos the british dog girl again? I always forget her name.
immensely based
That should be the last post on every thread here.
There's been two inactive Duck threads in a row, all hope is lost.
Who’s the artist
>Princess Marco doujinshi
My god
Wow this seems kind of horny for goofy
It looks extremely cute, though.
Oh wow. I honestly couldn't tell he did that Jokerz pic. And what the fuck is pawoo? It seems to be part of baraag, but I'm assuming it doesn't allow lewds, because none of his porn is there.
>generic star vs shit
Meh. I've seen doujins for Daria Cohens stuff. Now that was a surprise.