There are people on this board who think pic related is a masterpiece. Explain yourselves right fucking now...

There are people on this board who think pic related is a masterpiece. Explain yourselves right fucking now. Inb4 muh ultimate edition.

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Isn't it embarrassing watching movies and television about fucking superheroes?

Yes I suppose but I haven't seen this movie in a few years and I'm just surprised that it's seeing a recent surge in popularity.

>Isn't it embarrassing watching movies and television about fucking superheroes?

How is it any more embarrassing than other tv and film? Do you exclusively watch documentaries? If not then you're watching works of fiction. What a stupid nigger you are.

Nobody really thinks that newfag, it's a meme. you wouldn't understand. It's like the whole thing about the pequels being good.
They used to call it "trolling" back in the good old days. Now that word means almost anything except what it's suppsoed to.

It's about Batman's loss of faith and how he has adopted a mentality that if God exists he must be evil. Luthor speaks the words, but Batman believes them
His whole mentality turns around when he realizes that Superman, even if he is a god, is also just a man. Somebody's boy who wants to save his mother, which is the very heart and seed of Batman's despondence.
It's enough to snap Batman out of Luthor's spell, and restore his faith. He's just a man, and he'll fight for the people even if he has to stand against God.
Which is the set up for Justice League, because Batman - in the absence of the god Superman - still assembles a team to fight the Dark Gods of Apokalypse.

Not everyone is trolling, there are some people who genuinely believe this. These are the same people wetting themselves over that new Justice League miniseries

based

Zack is that you?

Nah, they're just able to ignore what a miss Luthor's character is. The lack of fleshing out Superman's presence in the world, and the poorly executed thing of Batman snapping because of the wheelchair bomb guy. Three elements that, if different, would leave the film a masterpiece.

It's not great.
But every other new capeshit is somehow worse.

Why did you say that name?!

It's the closest the genre ever came to something like genuine introspection and social awareness.

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i mean there are people who think casting a skeleton to play a greek half goddess amazonian that has trained over 100 years, was a good cast.

lol

Because the Snyder cut of Justice League is coming out soon, dipshit. It could potentially get parts 2 and 3 made if it turns out to be high in views
Which it will because anyone who has HBO Max has likely run out of anything to watch because Covid

Exactly, a few poorly executed elements (including, for instance, the huge miss with the interpretation of Luthor, who was too manic and should have been more stoic), but all within a brilliant film with excellent action.

Gadot has pathos.

It is explained in the movie that he is not THE Lex Luthor. It is his nutty batshit son. His name literally includes jr.

>get parts 2 and 3 made if it turns out to be high in views

Lmao no chance of this ever happening. Snyder is a talentless hack and BVS confirmed this. Also, you do realize that the superhero genre is dying off right?

Based. MouseCucks BTFO.

Yeah sure if it's a smash box office hit, this one's isn't and it's bad

sorry man but every male actor has to do some work to play super heroes.

why gal gadot got a free pass on that.

its wonder woman we are talking about.

and i am not talking about roided she hulk form.

but wonder woman has to be athletic. like a 100m female sprinter.

every time i see gal gadot try to hold the sword i am scared she will broke her arm.

Yeah, I know. He's too manic. He and Leto's Joker are proof that Snyder doesn't understand broken villains, probably because he understands broken heroes too well. Hell, that 300 hunchback was a cartoon villain. No nuance.

Yeah Endgame only made 2.7 billion dollars just two years ago. Surely they are dying off. Of course Blunderwoman sucked balls. Gal Gadot is a terrible cast.

based

He was good aside from the whole "grandma's peach tea" and the rant about God. But no surprise there when Snyder and many others compare Superman to the second coming of Christ.

Meh. She's not pure Amazonian. She's half-god. Her power comes from somewhere besides muscles.
Diana should be wise, like Athena, before being strong.
Too bad the DCEU got fucked up. It was cool that the MCU had the Norse gods as its cosmic progenitor race, and the DCEU was set up to make the Greek gods the cosmic progenitor race.

She doesn't have to bulk up on muscle. Just be like Lynda Carter and not be a fucking scrawny holocaust survivor.

We will get JL2 and 3 brehs

we just gotta believe

The god speech was the most essential part of the story. The painting turned upside down.
Batman decides that God must be evil (Luthor convinces him), but Batman decides that God must die. Luthor wants to serve God - the evil God. Lex Sr. was pious, but with the pretense that God was good. Lex Jr.'s twisted solution to that is simply admitting God is wicked, but remaining pious nonetheless. He's too broken to ever oppose Lex Sr.'s piety, but by making God evil and serving an evil god, Lex Jr. finds a world that works for him.
Also, the Martha thing breaks Batman out of the spell, but he also quickly pieces together that Lex has played him - immediately. Meaning that Lex doesn't consider Superman to be the dark god. That's half of why Batman wanted to kill Superman, because of riffing on Luthor's belief that Superman is the dark god. He realized that Lex considers Superman to be an obstacle to the coming of something wicked.
It all works.
Nah, the jolly rancher thing was weird. I get the "type" like a psycho Zuckerberg, but it didn't work.

Only if JL3 is a 4 hour action sequence comprising 4 hours of real time of a single battle.

it wasn't bad at all. Are people really this coked out on Marvel quip-heavy capeshit that anything that deviates even slightly from the norm is seen as wrong to them?

Well obviously Doomsday was the dark God. Superman is hardly a God. Just some freak empowered by the yellow sun. Batman does not normally wreck God's without magical bullets or some other mystical shit. At least not in direct confrontations. I especially enjoy how Superman could keep up with Flash in JL but Batman was about to kill him. Personally I found both movies to be disappointing but still worth a watch and some researches down the line after multiple years. Or just to scratch that itch.

you and my street shitting programming instructor would've been best buds he hated capeshit

The Ultimate Edition genuinely improves the film immensely. You should watch it if you haven't.

>batman kills
>superman's greatest weakness is not speaking quick enough to deliver important information
>shoehorned Wonder Woman

Overall just dumb. It's given more of a pass than it should due to the production values.

It is

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>woah look at me I pay 40 dollars for criterion blu-rays about fucking faggots in Paris, France

It's not a masterpiece, but it's a lot better than it's given credit for despite the third act being a bit crowded. The ultimate edition is far more cohesive than the theatrical version.

Holy Based

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Endgame was the literal endgame of superhero movies. No other superhero movie will peak over it ever again, so yes it's over.

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This is a red herring. Batman isn't shocked by the name itself, Batman is shocked because he realizes in that instant, that Superman (despite being a "god") cares for someone else, a human even. Batman therefore cannot kill him anymore, since his self-adopted mission was to fight evil, even god-like evil.

>Endgame
>Peak
t. MouseCuck
Raimi trilogy, first 2 X-Men, the dark knight trilogy, wolverine 2 and Logan, Watchmen and Man of Steel are far better than anything Marlel ever created.

Same shit

It's kino. Only redditors and libtards hate it.

>Man of Steel
take this out

Imagine making this shit unironically

Stop baiting those cultists, faggot.

>closest
its a retard trying to do that though. its kinda similar with STD trying to be gritty and real and ending up moch more childish than the older stuff

Sneeder extended cut

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Doomsday was a backup plan. Yes a dark "god", for sure. Oddly, the people of Apokalypse feared the Kryptonians. The Kryptonians were like a society of gods, somehow more powerful and feared than the Old Gods. I'd love for some context on that.

I've never had a programming "instructor" is that a dog whistle for faggotry?

I'd add X-Men First Class and DOFP to that. Joker too, if that counts. Also, the Daredevil series is the best thing Marvel put out and Feige was too much of a petty faggot to save it.

I have never watched Man of Steel or any of the other DCEU films, should I?

Have you watched Marvel?

Based

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It's that Batman realizes this in the most absolutely, limbic, most relatable possible way. His consciousness and right-brain immediately tie his own feelings about mommy to Superman's. Then the left-brain kicks in to put the pieces together. It breaks him out of the spell.

It doesn't matter if your head canon explination is correct. The fact is that the way it was portrayed on film was absolute garbage. You didn't feel for any of the characters, you weren't rooting for any one.
You didn't feel for superman's death because the whole food was done so poorly.
You can have the best ideas in the world with all these deep explinations, but if the execution of these ideas is bad then it doesn't matter.
That is ultimately what every Snyder movie is.

You know it's sad. This image can't work anymore. Because we're not allowed to have white saviors.
So, a Kansas good boi who loves him mommy and is a boy scout that does the right thing is not allowed to save the world anymore, because it "reinforces white privilege".
Well shit, now we know the long and short of it.

Batman V Superman is a Batman movie.

>actually citing cuck bomberguy
I can’t wait until the AIDS finally claims hin

It doesn't matter if it was a Batman movie. The fact remains that it was poorly executed. Whatever meanings and whatever story Snyder was trying to tell to the audience , it failed because it was executed like garbage.

You will probably kill yourself before then.

It is very symbolic, it shows the dead admiring someone who does not die, a god

It was executed poorly in parts, but not overall. It does not deserve the title of masterpiece, but it's very good.

Well, also people are stupid.

He's citing it sarcastically you fucking autist

I rewatched the ultimate edition just a few days ago. What a coincidence. When I saw it when it came out I thought it was great, now not so much. There are things I really like and things I really dislike.

Batfleck is a great Batman, I don't understand the hate. He looks cool as fuck, he's gritty, doesn't hesitate to fuck up criminal scum. Affleck was great in the role.
Portraying Superman as a God was really cool. Made me see Superman in a different way.
Fight scenes (especially between Batman and Superman) were really well done and interesting to watch.
I know the movie is like three hours but I constantly felt it was being rushed. The movie felt compressed. There was always that feeling like a scene was missing here and there. Because of this the flow of the movie was terrible. I think this was the studios fault, Snyder always has problems with the studio. I felt like Snyder was trying to do something different but the studio was forcing it to be a generic, safe superhero movie.
The Martha thing was kinda stupid but I could understand it.

Very nice post, user.

It's a bad movie made by the director with big aspirations but without the talent to execute what he was meant to.
It's like telling somebody to build a house that has no experience building things. They can have a picture in their head of a huge mansion with intricate designs and rooms, but none of that wouldn't matter because ultimately the person will just be piecing together and abomination with sticks and nailsbecause they don't have the know-how or talent on how to build a mansion.

>Explain yourselves right fucking now
I'll do it for them. "I'm 12 years old and what is this".

No. Some of them are really good. DC and Marvel comics aren't for kids.

Agree. Good ideas don't mean much if the execution was shit. And for what it's worth I think Snyder opted for less profound routes since MoS. I still maintain Pa Kent dying via heart attack is better because it shows someone as stupidly powerful as Clark cannot even safe his own damn father from something so mundane, and the le ebin tortured superman xD route cannot play into this, i.e. Clark has this self hatred and torment over not being able to safe EVERYBODY, and he had to accept this fact about himself. You can literally use Clark's boundless empathy and desire to do good to being use to torment him. I do not like in MoS how Clark seems to give zero fucks about the destruction Zod caused - he was cracking wise with Lois and kissing her

No, HBomberguy has some questionable takes on games, but when it comes to movies he's usually right.

Very based.

Also Clark acting like a total douchebag asshole when he destroyed a multi million dollar military satellite then threatened the military, flirted with the female soldier, the flew away leaving all that wreckage that he caused for the military to clean up.
And people were supposed to root for him?

im pretty sure that's ironic

non sequitur over non sequitur
yeah, looks like him

>y-you knew my mother, superdude?
>intimately, now stop fighting me!
worst scene in cinematic history
worst allegory in cinematic history
worst villain, worst everything.

>And people were supposed to root for him?
Just the Americans. A couple years before the movie came out we were freaking out about the NSA and before that the Patriot Act

fuck the drone, he destroyed a truck for no good reason at all

BvS Ultimate Edition is an amazing film.

Sounds pretty based to me.

You don't remember the threads we made back in the day? Too much fun for nu-Dab Forums

He wasn't Superman yet and the trucker was being a cunt. He deserved it.

Far from a masterpiece but the only good DCEU movie besides Shazam

no, superman was being a faggot

You're being a faggot.

you're being a superfaggot

You're being a batfaggot

SPOONFEED ME ZACK I AM MERELY A CHILDDDDD

misinterpreted and filtered
Is Capekino too much for your your smol brain?

Did you forget that a clown incel movie made everyone forget about downzgame with a 22 movie buildup? It was also much more financially successful with a more limited audience.
A CLOWN INCEL movie did that.
Just watch your cuckvision and stay quiet

that's actually based.
and no he didn't flirt with the soldier, stop seething cuck

for me it was the gay kissing scene

Unironically like the prequels

that's a decent take. did the leftist rat really type it?

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The Ultimate Edition is the original cut, dumbass.

HOLY BASED, CLOWNINCEL MOVIE ABSOLUTELY DEMOLISHED MARVEL.

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thanks, been looking for it. I gotta admit though the trailer with the lines also does the trick.

>"If you can't bring down the charging bull, then don't wave the red cape at it"
>"You were sent here for a reason. And even if it takes you the rest of your life, find out what that reason is"

wait nevermind it's 10 minutes of that humming shit.

What else were you looking for?

youtube.com/watch?v=j0LSrJydt_o

Yes, it's from his Twitter. He also has some pretty decent takes on the Star Wars prequels.

not really. hbomb is only more interesting than the other breadtube retards because he steals a lot of of his takes from an obscure somethingawful poster called supermechagodzilla, a christian marxist chad. you know how hbomb keeps threatening to make a "sw prequels are actually good" video but never actually does it? it's because that hypothetical video would just be him reading someone else's forum posts into the camera and he can't do it without either being accused of plagiarism or straight up admitting that all his opinions are borrowed from a forum poster he's stanning.

>He also has some pretty decent takes on the Star Wars prequels.
see

filtered

based user

>christian marxist

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Thank you user I was looking for these

>Supermechagodzilla

Pretty sure that guy has his own YouTube account. If it's the same one.

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another

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literally the chaddest of ideological positions. christ brings not peace but a sword.

you're thinking of somebody else. i'm talking about a weird canadian barman that posts exclusively in one corner of one dying forum and has no other internet presence, which is why hbomb can have a youtube career built around promulgating diluted versions of his opinions. hbomb openly admits to revering the guy in one stream i saw, but fuck if i remember which one.

Based

Happens so far away from the center, it's actually fine.

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Never mind, guy I was thinking about went by Mechagamezilla.

I didn't watch any if the recent dceu flicks except Watchmen
Watchmen was pretty good tho so I can't say zack snyder is a hack :)
Does Bvs and Mos was really that bad?

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>Does Bvs and Mos was really that bad?
they are absolute kino.

They are kino

And what precisely do you people believe this means on a symbolic level?

Today I will remind them

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he should just make music videos, because he can't write a script for shit

They took shitposting seriously, many such cases.

You've got two jews in one poster. Unbelievable.

he barely ever does
ugly, perverted things are part of our world but their place is at the brinks.

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Ok Reddit. Glad you are writing a script.. oh wait lmao

my bad. wrong one. the flower symbolizes purpose and is twisted into a spear.

Please don't try to trick innocent people into watching garbage

just because you hate something doesnt mean its garbage john

please get your midwitism out of here.

masterpiece of shit lmao gottem

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It's the weird visceral hatred of these movies that some of you have that is almost more entertaining than the movies. It's fascinating. It's almost as if these moving pictures on a screen have done you genuine emotional damage that you've been struggling with for years.

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I'm not tricking anyone

>why is it a masterpice?
>*summarizes the plot*
are you retarded?

Luthor cares about only one thing. Proving that God is not good. That list completely ignores that Luthor's entire plan is exposed because his fake witness talks. So he has her pushed in front of a train, then he murders Finch and everyone else who has figured out he's framing superman by blowing the shit out of them. Because all he cares about is breaking humanity's faith in God, there are endless alternate routes to achieve that.

It's a mirror. They, subconsciously, realize that they are Luthor or Bruce so they freak out when looking at the mirror.
It's much like Trump's victory at 2016. I don't think for a second anyone got as mentally damaged as they are now just because of the victory or Trump itself. It's because it made most of them look at their behavior in 2016 and forced them into a choice, either realize that you behaved like a child or double down. And then they doubled down for 4 years.

do you know what a summary is compared to an analytical approach user? also
>implying a plot can't be a centerpiece of art
you wanna know how I know you've never understood any art ever contrived, beyond the medium of film?
you may be projecting, retard. go back to twitter

i liked it but wont call it a masterpiece. what now

Also Luthor's intentionally seeks out Darkseid because he's angry at God for not saving him from being raped when he was a boy, so he likes the idea of pledging allegiance to a dark god. An evil being that fits his idea of what a powerful god must be.

that's how you actually talk about the meaning and value of stories you doofus. did you think criticism meant listing "pros and cons" like some video game product review?

pic with timestamp now, Snyder
also based

simple "yes" would suffice

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>i cant articulate a proper argument so ill just double down on my own stupidity

It’s the movie we deserved, but not the one the world needs right now, so they’ll hate it.

People don’t realize it yet but in the future they’re gonna be begging for BvS after they start bitching about why they keep rehashing the same Batman shit every half decade when the actor gets bored when they reboot and add more niggers and woke shit. It’s basically what happen to comics. Nowadays it’s just non stop bitching about why their comics suck. Their cartoons are just as bad now too. Next up, movies. Give it another reboot or two.

yup. actual bad movies are forgotten instantly. who even remembers what happened in disney's star wars solo: a solo wars star story or whatever? meanwhile there are these totems of nerd hatred like snyder films, sw prequels, bay transformers, prometheus etc that conjure up infinite anger years and years after coming out and are remembered and discussed in far more detail than even, you know, the "good ones". people will write one sentence about how alien 1 is pretty spooky i guess and then twelve paragraphs about why it sucks that the biologist touches the space snake. nerd entertainment fans appear to be legitimately traumatized by franchise filmmaking and it's fucking hilarious.

I am not sure what's that supposed to mean.
I think it wasn't creator intention but I don't know.

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>Woah... this films like... references paintings and religion and stuff... fucking crazy genius stuff man...
Is everyone on Dab Forums a sodabrain who has only watched capeshit their entire life?

not even gonna bother to unpack your shitbag of a post. what movies do you consider to be good?

Why is that relevant? If you're looking for a film that does symbolic imagery or religious themes well (beyond the incredibly surface level of any Snyder film) watch something by Greenaway or Bergman or something like that.
The films I like have no bearing on whether Batman vs Superman is shit

how is BvS incredibly surface level? shitting on others is all too easy if you never reveal anything to compare to.

Him saying Martha is still mentally retarded, he should have said something like “I need to save my mom” because otherwise it really seems more like Snyder is going haha isn’t it epic that these guy’s moms have the same name. Nobody in their last moments of desperation would call their mother by her first name

I am still mad that gal gadot doesn't have any muscle.

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>Greenaway
Baby of Macon is 10/10 kino

there's nothing more painfully midwittish than organizing all your opinions around some imaginary high-low culture divide.

prove me wrong. tell me why the "imagery" of snyder is "surface" (incredibly surface, even) and the imagery of bergman is not "surface". what even is "non-surface imagery" in a film? like, i saw some truffaut the other day and the images sure seemed to be a surface. do i need special glasses?

What are you talking about, I don’t know a single person who even believes that endgame is the best marvel movie, infinity war is better, so are the guardians of the galaxy movies and the one good Thor movie. The first act of Endgame is unironic kino; the second act is fun but it’s very messy and dumb, below nolan-tier; the third act is horrible, it looks like shit, it makes no sense, and it’s a complete clusterfuck of weird nerdwank. I don’t like Snyder’s movies but they feel like they were made by one guy who thinks he’s smarter than he is because he references books he skim-read once, whereas endgame feels like a mess designed in a board room.

The most correct comment in this thread, possibly this board.

notice what a cynical move this is. not talking about a film at all but just trying make people ashamed of their enjoyment by portraying liking films as uncool. my respect for snyder grows every time i see his enemies act like subversive rats.

kino based post sir

based

eh. underestimating sneeder but otherwise decent post.

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The ultimate edition was about on par with man of steel.
I would give both a 7 out of 10. The theatrical was a 5 out of 10.

Top tier post user

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Man of Steel is the masterpiece, BvS is just pretty good

That's pretty dope. Now I'd love to have some BvS tarot cards.

He didn't write the scripts of these movies

So basically Batman became a redditor and was redeemed?

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>some imaginary high-low culture divide.
Ironically enough this is exactly what seemingly most Snyder fans here do. Anyone who doesn't like his films is a "stupid filtered midwit pleb marvelcuck", and every single time when questioned WHY Zack Snyder films are so divine, the answer is "well he does like religious symbolism man". I'm only pointing out how "low brow" BvS is because of its fans posturing it as being some misunderstood piece of high art.
>why is it incredibly surface level
Look at pic related for example. "Superman is like.. jesus man". What an incredibly unimaginative and unsubtle way of conveying it.
Now granted, I think the concept of "how would superheroes exist in a realistic world" is somewhat interesting, but the melodramatic and frankly uninteresting handling of it makes BvS a shit movie.
>what is non-surface imagery in film
Something that requires an element of subtlety and a purpose beyond "this character is like this figure". On the Bergman point, take the chess scene in Seventh Seal for example.
I know you're construing my point as being "deep=better" but that isn't what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that Snyder's images are incredibly shallow despite his fanboys sucking his dick as if he's made some era defining high-art piece. Liking Snyder is fine, but please stop pretending as if anyone who dislikes him just isn't comprehending his incredibly deep religious symbolism

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I don’t underestimate his ability to come up with good ideas, but I don’t think he’s very good at executing them. The core idea behind the famous “Martha” part is actually very good, the problem is that he doesn’t get how to do it properly (possibly because he gets fixated on details that don’t matter); instead of Superman saying “Martha” he should have said “mom I need to save my mom” or something like that, the way it was executed makes both of the characters (and Snyder) look autistic by thinking that the names being the same matters (unsubtle man children will say it a good because it makes the parallel stronger but having the name be spoken first makes superman seem like a weirdo when he should be shown as human as possible), and they start being too chummy too fast for people that were just trying to kill each other, Snyder had a good idea, but he didn’t implement it well, just chose this example because it’s infamous and the best illustration of Snyders ideas lacking the proper use.
He’s struggled before with interpreting the works of others like this as well by missing the wood for the trees (turning Ozymandias into a sociopath who tricks the world into thinking that America was retarded and lost control of its super weapon, which would actually just make the Cold War intensify).
I’d rather this poor execution than exec boards having no ideas and stitching together movies out of pure cliche, but it’s still poor execution and warrants criticism.

>masterpiece
lol, no. I just wanted to see Batman smash Clarks fucking face in with a sink. I was not disapointed

>I don’t know a single woman
ftfy

using that image just shows how surface level your mind works along with the rest of the normies who barely grasp that symbolism compared to the horace, apollo and atlas symbolism presented through both films. Just say you're retarded and need stuff spoonfed to you which is why you don't understand the nuance of the films.

People that think any capeshit is good have malfunctioning brains

>Anyone who doesn't like his films is a "stupid filtered midwit pleb marvelcuck"
Not him, but the reason for this is that a lot of the detractors clearly have motives beyond simply disliking the movies. If you dislike something you don't watch it or mention how shit it is in passing, you don't spend years and/or entire threads acting like Snyder is weaponised ebola and everyone needs to know it. It reminds me of the old days of comics when they tried to push a rivalry; "Make mine Marvel" ect. I like both franchises, just got done watching Wandavision in fact, but DC really does piss off a subset of Marvel autists.

Some of the vocal haters are more passionate about these movies than I am, and I liked them and own the BRs. I personally didn't even realise there was a big Snydercut movement, but I'm sure as hell going to watch it, as I do enjoy his movies.

superman doesn't say mother because he is struggling with revealing his identity. lois reveals it for him.

The fact this is lost on the memers tells you everything you need to know.

this is some next level mental gymnastics

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No.

you don't really know how to pay attention in movies do you zoomer

youtube.com/watch?v=_PW6iSmPja0

Ability to follow a very, very basic plot point is mental gymnastics to you? I'm very sorry user.

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It's not really weird, rather than the fact that you're wasting three hours or more just to see absolute shit.
Pseudo-intellectuals seem to like it though.
Hey remember when Batman killed a whole bunch of people failing to get some kryptonite and then just got it off screen anyways. Great stuff...

>superman doesn't say mother because he is struggling with revealing his identity
He’s literally about to die, he should be desperate enough that he doesn’t need his gf to reveal it for him. He should be giving in to his humanity more fully than that by showing that real vulnerability, he’s a superhero, it could’ve been another woman named Martha who he wanted Batman to save, the familial connection should be immediate. The fact that it’s about showing how human he is should mean that he reveals his identity to Batman himself, that he’s scared of losing his mom because superman was man from Kansas before he knew he was a space alien. Snyder’s idea was good but he needed more clarity rather than muddling it with other things that thematically conflict and reduce clarity. Maybe his justic league will have more stuff like this without things becoming confused because he has more time for it

you're retarded. that scene wasn't meant to be cool, it was meant to focus on Luthor seeing his plan in motion. I swear zoomers have a lack of critical comprehension and understanding.

Sneedful

>It's not really weird
It truly is.

>rather than the fact that you're wasting three hours or more just to see absolute shit.
Obviously I enjoyed them/it, so to me it feels like time well spent with no negative association. What's the root of the time you are investing?

damn marvelcucks got owned here
synder is still a hack though

superman isn't perfect. he's very insecure at that point in time.

>this nigga is 2 sec from killing me but I hope he doesn't find out my name that would be embarrassing
>my hopeless last ditch effort to appeal to him and save my mother will be awkward and cryptic, that's a good trick!
powerful moment

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The critiques have always been dishonest. If he is a perfect boyscout then he's "boring". If he's made more human and given some internal conflict then they screech about how he isn't acting like Superman. Remember the old meme about how he doesn't smile in MoS/BvS and yet he was grinning when he learned to fly and smiled plenty at Lois and his mom? Most of it has always been shitposting and concern trolling.

in a sense lois is his strongest connection to humanity, which is earlier established on the mountain.

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You REALLY need to take your meds my guy

He doesn't hide his identity because it would be embarrassing, it's to protect them. This is something that would be engrained in superman to do till his dying breath.
Jesus people are retarded.

what was he supposed to say? save my mommy?

He's appealing to him to save an innocent in what he thinks is his last moment, in the hope that Batman will do what he won't be around to manage. I repeat what I said, I'm sorry. It must be tough.

holy shit I was waiting forever for someone to post this again, priceless

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such a kino scene

wait a second I'm pretty sure it used to say
>mankind is introduced to capekino