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Hi,
I've a question for people who have been on NoFap/semen retention for a long time, hard mode meaning no masturbation, no sex, no porn, no nothing.

How the fuck do you do that? Especially if you live an healthy lifestyle. I can understand if you don't care much for sex and your libido is low because you live an unhealthy lifestyle, don't exercise, consume drugs such as opiates or bensodiazepines, etc...

BUT, if you eat well, while exercising, lifting weights and doing cardio, how the fuck do you resist the temptation of masturbation/sex? Considering that all of that increases your libido and testosterone significantly?

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Let me ask you this instead. Why do you want to? It’s important to be clear about this. What are you searching for?

I don't want to have sex before marriage, and I don't want to watch porn or masturbate anymore. I also heard it boosts your muscle gains, which is very interesting to me as I want to get bigger and stronger.

I should note I did already have sex before marriage, but now I've decided that I will wait before marriage before ever having sex again.

Strength and determination
No other way around, though it gets easier and easier the more you do it

Can we get deeper than that? Why not have sex before marriage, why not jack off and cum every day? Or why not save it up for a week, and cum extra hard every week?

So one of the reasons is you are interested in potential muscle gain. Is there more?

An extremely pleasurable cumming session for no effort is extremely addictive and superficially appealing. And so if you’re interested in exploring life without it, you can’t spend too much time getting clear about why. If you want to abstain from this type of pleasure, because you think it might help you make life changes so that ultimately you can get a hotter girl to coom with, then you will soon fail, because pretty soon, masturbation and porn will be much more pleasurable than you were used to, and so the pleasure reward you were doing it for is already here, and you will have no motivation to continue.

For me, that kind of pleasure is very hollow. It’s degenerate, and it corrupts love. And worse yet, it is extremely hard to see just how badly it does so. It does not fulfill, it never gets satisfied, and the harder you chase it, the more dead your soul becomes. That’s why it is hollow. You feel really great for an hour, and then it’s over, and then what? The cycle just repeats. You’re just a rat pushing a button.

Love is different, in that it does fulfill. It satiates, and it is always accompanied by learning and development of your understanding of yourself and other people. It is inherently forward moving, and it is inherently trying and takes effort. It is not a substance of abuse. And it can be enjoyed fully without ever having an orgasm. It’s not that orgasms can’t be part of it, but it always comes with the possibility of slipping into degeneracy. Because orgasms can be abused.

At the core of it, this is all about gluttony. Is it desirable to feel pleasure just because you can, or does that come at a cost to your spirit? WHY is gluttony not to be a part of your life?

As long as this hollow pleasure can show itself, and there’s a part of you that thinks “fuck yeah, that is the good life”, then you’re not going to pass it up for long. Why should you? We want a rich, engaging, fulfilling life. Is it really necessary to reject this hollow pleasure in order to have that? And if it is, and you want to engage in that journey, why can this hollow pleasure find you in a dull, disengaged state where you are so easy to convince otherwise? I’m just thinking out loud here in order to maybe stimulate some thought

It's a fucking meme. I didn't even read ypu post and it doesn't matter if I do, because nofap is a meme regardless. If you're a young man, you will have a sex drive (barring certain cases). If you're like me and have a high sex drive, nofap is just torturing yourself to get a placebo benefit. Try it out for yourself, sure, but this is the conclusion I've reached because every time I do it I just end up stupidly horny and in a rage because of that. I'm not in a relationship, so the only release I have is to jerk off when it gets overwhelming. Avoid porn, don't spend all day pounding your cock, but you don't need to go full monk mode. If you can, good for you. If you can't, pound one out. Granted, I had to do some nofap to reach this conclusion, so take that as you will. It has benefits in an indirect sense, but you won't ascend to godhood just by holding in your cum

This, sure the energy boost was nice but it had reached the point to where I could cut mountains in half just by looking at exposed cleavage. It wasnt fun cause I had was a hard dick dribbling precum all day cause every woman was making me harder than diamonds.

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There comes a point where it's just predatory and uncomfortable for everyone. Maybe some people have a lower sex drive and it's fine for them, but if you have a high sex drive removing your release is a problem for normal function in society

Jack off, c'mon jack off. Porn just makes you feel good, it doesn't do anything bad to your brain. Jack off right now. Its a meme and the superpower thing is a myth, bro. Just jack off come on. Watch porn, watch hentai, look at hot girls on insta. Jack off right now. Its normal and natural to sit in front of a screen and watch strangers have sex for you to diddle your pecker to. We've been doing it since we were cavemen. Its natural. C'mon jack off. Watch porn. Its free, y'know. Porn is FREE. Doesn't it make you want to jack off? Masturbate right now. Right now. Masturbate. Watch porn. Its free and so is your orgasm. Just jack off.

go back to redit blogpost faggot

You're conflating masturbation with porn use. That's a false dichotomy. Porn makes you horny beyond your natural desire, but jerking off when you're already horny is just releasing. Don't do it more than you need to, and how much you need to is a very personal thing

It actually gets easier the longer you do it for. It's a bit similar to overcoming a drug addiction. First days or even weeks are sheer hell, but each day after that gets easier.

Not unlike recovering from drug addiction, it's still possible to "fall off the wagon" whether you're 30 days in or 300. So you have to always stay mindful of it and be in control. Most people that are doing No Fap have "relapsed" multiple times and know what it's like to go from being on Cloud 9 to being back in the gutter again and feeling like a dirty, pathetic coomer. It's not worth it for the ten minutes or whatever of pleasure. So that's usually in the back of a lot of their minds.

I've done hard mode in the past, but only to help me get a girlfriend. I tell myself "You will ONLY orgasm with a partner, no exceptions." After a while it causes me to put myself out there a lot more and take more risks, and it's always led to me getting with someone shortly after I start trying (whereas I would feel hopeless and awkward if I was fapping to porn every day). I'm not sure how you could go such a long time without at least having sex, I think that's still healthy and beneficial. Monks do it I guess lol.

Yes, because of how you look at women. The problem is you love looking at them that way because it makes your dick feel good, but only if there’s an eventual release. It is exactly how porn has wired you to look at them.

There’s a strong natural interest, but it has been integrated completely dysfunctionally if you run around dripping precum all day if you don’t stroke your cock.

Porn is just a means to an end, it doesn't do anything to your brain except make it feel good. C'mon jack off. Watch porn and jack off. Its hassle free, you just need to stroke your dick. There's nothing wrong with it. You don't want prostate cancer do you? C'mon, jack off. Watch porn and jack off. Smoke weed too, it makes it feel better. Jack off. Watch porn. C'mon, masturbate. Nofap is just a meme, jack off.

Yep. Sorry fellas but my libido is through the roof so nofap actually fucks with me by putting my brain into predatory mode if I go too long. Not saying it's good or even preferable, it's just how I function. I should of known my sex drive would be outta control when I was stealing teachers panties in high school to get off on

Are you going to actually make a point or just spam memes?

Are you gonna jack off? C'mon watch porn and masturbate. Its natural and healthy and feels good. It doesn't do anything to your brain, the superpowers thing is a meme. C'mon, just jack off. Watch porn, watch hentai, and jack off. It won't harm you. Just jack off and watch porn. Its free y'know. Porn is free and you can jack off to it. Watch porn and jack off. C'mon, masturbate right now. Masturbate. Don't you like having orgasms? It feels good. Just masturbate. You can do it three times a day, and it won't harm you. C'mon jack off.

That's fucking retarded. So if a woman bends down and her ass crack or tits are hanging out, I'm just supposed to say "hmm" and move on? Nigga at this point you may as well fucking say dont have a sex drive because so long as I'm attracted to women, I'll always see them in that light first before anything else unless it's a woman who goes way past me in age, looks, or demeanor. You say porn is the problem when there are 20 somethings all over social media dancing with their tits out and I'm just supposed to not feel ANYTHING towards that. Get fucking real you cultist. You say its porn and then when I say I havent watched porn but I'm horny as shit, you say its residual effects, ok so when the fuck does it boil down to "well maybe I should just nut"?

whats your streak?

what exactly is your issue?

I'm not here to fit your narrative faggot. Go to reddit for that shit

Alright, you're not going to make a point. The last time I did nofap, it was for about 8 days and it got to the point where I was thinking sexual thoughts at inappropriate times and my prostate was literally aching. I think it's probably alright to jerk off then

I probably tagged two different anons. Either way, I'm looking to talk, not "fit a narrative"

Keep doing it. Keep jacking off. Masturbate more. It felt good didn't it? Watching porn and jacking off felt good, didn't it? That's why you did it. It made your dick feel good and made your brain feel good. Keep jacking off, keep watching porn. Keep doing it. Its not harmful, there's no superpowers. Its all a meme. Your prostate feels healthy now doesn't it? Keep jacking off. Masturbate. Porn isn't bad for you, its just a means to an end to reach orgasm. Isn't that what you want? Hassle free orgasm? Porn is free for that. C'mon, jack off again.