So now that Kirby is officially dead, how long before Hal goes under?
So now that Kirby is officially dead, how long before Hal goes under?
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>Nintendo doesn’t announce literally every game they have in development
>”Well I guess that means all the games that we know are in development are cancelled”
they'll be propped up by super smash bux right?
Star Allies sold like shit.
What makes you think the next game won't?
make robobot 2
3 million copies. Most in Kirby history.
I have no words for you, please stop posting.
>how long before Hal goes under
I thought they disbanded years ago.
No, we need a 64 sequel first.
kirby games are very difficult to market; literally the games must platformers for little retarded kids who cant overcome difficult spikes.
So they must explore more genres, like rythm or RPG or Party games or Micro Games.
>Star Allies sold like shit.
Best-selling Kirby game after the original Kirby's Dreamland.
Robobot 2: Crystal Shards 2
Am I a shithead for wanting them to port Robobot to the Switch?
Good evening gents, just a reminder that the Dark Matter Trilogy is the biggest marvel of the Kirby series
>Vastly different tone/atmosphere
>Unique gameplay styles that were only brought back with Robobot
>Literally requiring 100% completion to unlock the final boss
>Created by a man that literally does not exist
>Fucking Zero
God I love those games
it's not much compared to some of their other titles, but I guess nothing is
I never played it, so it'd be neato if they did.
I want to raise a family with that robutt.
play it asap, its the best in the series imo
She's an alien not a robot and Meta Knight already belongs to her
I hate kirbyfags so fucking much. You faggots get a buffet table of games every gen and still find time to complain. All for a series that sucks shit.
I mean they've already ported some assets to Switch with Fighters 2.
Why don't you piss off to a Smash thread
I'll pick it up eventually. Just need the money first.
I wanna fast-paced game like Nightmare, AM, and SS, none of this floaty SSU shit
I want each impact to hurt
sleep tight poyo
everyone likes to complain about shit even if there's nothing to complain about.
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Kirby Needs a Break
Pick up Robobot sometime, Susiebro. It's one of my favorite games in the series, if not THE favorite.
He got a new game last month
Quit whining
this. kirby could get away with complicated games like amazing mirror in the past because kids weren't as retarded, but nowdays that kids would be legally branded retarded if they lived in the past and the most they can do is idential mobile games there's no way nintendo can get away with kirby
are you sure it's not just a case of adults dumbing things down for kids even though they can handle things? how are you coming to this conclusion.
I had forgotten how much I like beast mole kirby as an ability
I want an Amazing Mirror/Great Cave Offensive combo, if I can't have Air Ride 2
>Nintendo gives first direct in 2 years
>it's all portshit
Just admit you fell for the nintendo scam of front-loading 1st party games for the launch window of a new console and then leaving it to die again
my niece is a fucking retard. she's 8 years old and she can't get past the first level in super mario world. all she does is watch roblox and minecraft youtubers and those videos get trillions of views which leads me to believe other kids are similarly retarded.
any thoughts on Dream Crafter? the sage 2020 showcase looked fine as a PoC, but I feel like there'll be a lot of weight to pull if the creator wants it to get as popular as the mario and mega man makers
it's your fault for not giving her smart stuff to do
>dude just isolate your daughter so she has no friends or common topics with her schoolmates whatsoever
damned if you do damned if you don't. you can't change things by yourself, this is why I'm never having kids.
I've never heard of it until now, but it might be a godsend if it really works.
Kids can do more than one thing, even if you think some of it is dumb that doesn't stop trying to introduce more good stuff earlier on
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it's a bit basic right now so I'm waiting a bit until it has more going for it, but the idea is solid
I already downloaded it, I think I might dick around with it tomorrow.
At least make it Triple Deluxe + Robobot
thanks for the tip
A friend of mine ripped some Robobot stuff for me a while back. Figured I'd post it here. Might be of use to someone.
Robobot was only like 5 years ago
God I love her, why is she so cute bros?
I love kirby too but there is a thing that has to be done, see you in 3 days.
and it was shit
screw you buddy
take that back
How did HAL make such a perfect character design?
They made her with the four most cutest qualities.
>pink hair
>nerd
>big eyes
>dom
I've been a diehard Kirby fan for years now and still don't really get why I loved Robobot so much more than every other modern Kirby
Was the robot themed worlds and final boss enough to do it?
I guess the Robot suit was also the only really well done gimmick in the modern ones
need susie gf bros...
Source on that art, by the way?
I hate how robobot has two city worlds
Taking shortstack susie requests, post a pose and request and I might do it
Susie sitting on Meta Knight.
same, get rid of world 2 and replace it with something else.
Reminder Kirby is quite literally the most popular Nintendo character in Japan
this
Is that a loli
Part Time UFOchads, rise up
It's a Nep
can somebody post the kirby lore image
A pose similar to this (crude) sketch?
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Right here, bro. Tower of Infinity is a pain in the ass and I haven't been able to clear it. Any tips?
Hal will survive off of Kirby merchandise sales alone
Nigga it's only been 2 and a half years since Wave 3.
You never would have survived the old days.
Squeak Squad 2 when
One of those two cities should have been the ice world, to be in line with DL3/RtDL.
Probably Resolution Road, since that area was utterly pointless.
True, I ski park could have worked
Has anyone played HAL Egg's other game, "Housuu de Shoubu! Kame Sanpo"? If so, is it any good?
Bumpan.
sauce?
How’s this
Based. You're a real one, user. Keep up the drawing.
Naisu. Good job, user.
>cute as a button
>in a world of borbs and blobs, has attractive humanoid features
>slimy personality means prime hatefuck material
Susie pushes all of Dab Forums's buttons in just the right ways.
>prime hatefuck material
oh no
I prefer Ado.
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Nice work, user.
Thanks
Will the Jamba Gang ever appear again?
Keep the thread bumped for me lads, uploading my Susie archive.
Definitely at some point. HAL really loves fanservice and referencing older Kirby games. Even Kirby's Adventure has a reference to the first game.
Five years ago I would have said "lol no way in hell", but HAL seems to putting more non-big 3 characters in the spotlight recently, like how Magolor and Gooey were playable out of nowhere in KF2.
I imagine they'll show up again, though in a reduced role.
>Created by a man that literally does not exist
explain?
Here you go, Susiebros.
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I tried to keep it fairly vanilla, albeit with some futa that I'll organize into another folder later, just wanted to get it uploaded.
Shoutouts to the user who spammed Susie porn for three hours long last year for giving me this idea. arch.b4k.co
you get 10 kirby games a year. perhaps you should gain some perspective.
>Created by a man that literally does not exist
Wait what.
wat
Shinichi Shimomura.
He was one of the level designers for the older games, directed the Dark Matter trilogy, co-directed NiDL with Sakurai, and then just vanished into the ether at the same time as Sakurai quit and Iwata got promoted, which fucked over HAL for a few years.
Nobody has ever been able to find any concrete info on him, and it might not even be his real name.
I assume he's talking about Shimomura, the director of those games. He just disappeared.
Okay, how’s this
Kirby's Dream Land 2, 3, 64, and Nightmare in Dream Land were all directed by Shinichi Shimomura, who has no photos relating to him online and seeming dissappeared afterwards.
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Nice job, user! Thanks for taking my request! Have you made any other Susie art?
International man of mystery.
Since people kept posting about how they wanted fat soos, I made rat soos
Those games had SOUL
el rato...
Thanks bros, I knew Shimomura directed them, just never heard about him basically vanishing like that.
Would I like 3 and 2 if I liked 64? Granted I played that one first so maybe I'm biased, but I honestly preferred it over Returns and (SNES mini) Superstar. Triple Deluxe was fun, though.
I imagined that through some experiment gone wrong, she got turned into a rat, and her employees, not realizing it was her, decided to use her for more experiments and occasionally modeling with her figure.
hola! rato!
Also this
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Artwork a friend is making, thoughts/feedback?
They play pretty similarly to 64 except instead of combining abilities, there are mounts that change what your current ability does.
You'll also get context for pic related.
Nice, maybe make the torse a little less stocky, make it a tad more svelte
this The ayy proportions are a big part of why her design works though the current version would work fine for the Jambastion girls if the legs were shorter and stockier.
Sounds good so far, how's the level design? Maybe that's a weird thing to ask about Kirby of all things, but I think part of why I preferred 64 and TD to Ret and SS is the level design. I don't know why that is exactly when the games I like are so different in this respect so don't ask me.
yeah let's look at the direct
>2022
>botw2 2022+
>iOS port
>3ds port
>wii port
>physical release for already released game
Reminder that we may still get a kirby game this year since the direct only showed the first half of 2021 and even then, we’re definitely getting one in 2022 since that’s kirby’s 30th anniversary
The level design's pretty good.
3 has some of the most infuriating 100% completion puzzles in the entire series (and one particular puzzle in 2) but if you've already played 64 you should already have a leg up.
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Fuck yeah, thanks user. Don't know if I'll ever get the chance to play it, but it'll probably be nice when I do.
gooey
Best boy
correct on all counts but you're still a fag
>Nintendo announces literally nothing
>"Guys, just buy the ports and stop complaining!"
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How does it look now?
very cute
i think i know this artist
Nice
I just realized handcuffs don’t work on susie, so what if you took her hands and locked them in a chest
Based, thanks for this, user.
Who do you think it is, user?
Use your imagination!
exed_eyes?
more like
pooey
Nope, but he was inspired by that artist so you were close.
Cute dee
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What proportions best work for Susie in your opinion Dab Forums?
Either Flat or small, perky tits, short, big hips and ass
I like this statue version in star allies.
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>logo is a nest of dog eggs
Do they not realize what that phrase means?
what does it mean
slang for dog poos
You son of a borb are the hero dream land needed
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>0:59
The official name of this song is la follia d'amore and I think that's awesome.
>Shoutouts to the user who spammed Susie porn for three hours long last year for giving me this idea
lol i think i know what thread that was
mods only deleted minus8 images in that thread until eventually the whole thread got nuked
glorious thread
Yeah, a lot of Kirby song names have interesting names on the OST releases. Like "The Deus Ex Machina the Child Saw" and "Suite- The Star Conquering Traveler - Final Movement-Shimmering Star".
Who drew it best, Dab Forums?
>programmer art
I really like Phantom Of The Moon's Spirit because of the motif of reflection. Real neat translation with that one.
big tummy, wide hips
it's alright the eggs are legit
thats not dark matter
Did I say that retard? I said the games still exist and will eventually come out, feel free to not buy Stubbs the zombie.
Oh shit
good shit user, keep doing what you do
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soul
>ARE YOU NOT DEDEDELIGHTED
Keep the thread alive, I’m making something
What're you making?
How would level design work in a full 3D Platformer Kirby game while still following the core design philosphy?
you got it, might as well ask a question for thread.
what's the hardest boss/mid-boss in soul melter EX for you? second mid-boss rush for me, mainly for twin bugzzy. i can rarely get by them without at least taking a good amount of damage.
This
it's been a hot minute since I last played SA, the frame rate drop sister, hyness and astral birth were the only real issues due to their health pools being massive.
weirdly dark morpho wasn't an issue.
Haven’t played star allies in a long time and I don’t even know if ever finished heroes in another dimension, I think I was too burnt out star allies to finish it
nice
Great work!
the Hal logo is a metaphor for an unlikely companion or something like that hence why the dog is by the eggs
Going to restart work on my Susie game soon enough! I hope you'll enjoy it!
MADE FOR KIRBY DICK
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I think I may have met you in TF2 once, because I met someone that mentioned they were working on a Susie WG game.
Party Dab Forumsan? If so, probably.
I'll make sure to not disappoint you. I'm thinking I'll rebrand it as a visual novel or some light simultator or something, need to keep it simple (not that I had much direction originally anyways).
Here's a Susie I just drew for you guys btw.
Yeah, met you on the Dab Forumsan. Name was Angry, by the way.
Nice Susie too.
I picture it looking similar to Crystal Shards, but you can move freely, with some objects and enemies on the sides.
A stage in Kirby usually consists of multiple rooms connected through an entrances and an exits, i don't think level design would be as much of a problem as figuring out good 3d controls.
Oh good, the thread's still alive.
Have a silly thing
thanks, drawbro. you're doing good
What’s your favorite spray paint colors
I hunger
Imagine if they brought back spray paints
>filename
Bitch. Absolute bastard. Fuck you.
hell yeah brother
i always liked yellow and sapphire
Now she has to take a shower!
Probably wouldn’t work, kirby’s spray paints stay even through water
why is kirby so morally inconsistent
>murders random waddle dees + the main villains multiple times
>suddenly willing to accept said villains as dream friends
Is he just retarded?
I mean, he clearly has the intelligence of a toddler
>why is mario so morally inconsistent
>murders random goombas + bowser multiple times
>suddenly willing to accept enemies with a cute hat and bowser as friends
Why is it so difficult to find a physical copy of Robobot?
I remember jumping from Gamestop to Gamestop finding nothing else but Star Allies and Triple Deluxe.
I got pissed and ended up pirating it instead. Fantastic game btw.
Didn't some guys find him working as a DJ? I remember seeing a twitter link to it here, I don't have it though.
>it's not much compared to some of their other titles
It's quite literally one of the best selling games in the series user.
Should have got it at launch like the rest of us did.
Even had that nice Warp Star Kirby amiibo.
>only way to get ufo in robobot without complete 100% is using the kirby series kirby amiibo
fucking why
i still got it but why tho
Oh don't be so damn melodramatic. We've had longer droughts than this. I still remember the sigh of relief that went throughout the fans when Returns to Dreamland got announced. Now THAT was a fucking wait. In comparison, I have no problem with waiting a bit longer for more Kirby. Especially if it turns out to be good again, and if they once again bring back MOTHERFUCKING BUGZZY.
>not buying it at launch
Care to explain yourself?
>Now THAT was a fucking wait.
Not to undermine your point but Epic Yarn was one year before RTDL. Squeak to Yarn on the other hand was four years.
Epic Yarn sort of doesn't count since it wasn't initially conceived as a Kirby game, and the differences in gameplay shows. The cuteness of Kirby definitely shone through, though, and in the end the decision was probably for the best since I doubt Fluffy's Epic Yarn would have been much of a success otherwise. I was mostly speaking of the wait for a new console Kirby, though. We all got massively blueballed during the GameCube era. I still really miss some of the potential we saw in that prototype.
You're actually fucking retarded, neck yourself you nigger.
Robobot should stay as a one and done
Thing is it's less about what the game is and more the active state of the IP. In other words even if it's a retooled game it's still an indicator that the series wasn't "dead".
Know what I mean?
I get you. Kirby has always had weird spin-offs anyways, so I would've been cool with seeing one in the direct anyway. I still remember being hyped as fuck for Rainbow Curse when it got announced. Wasn't as cool as Canvas Curse but I still really liked it, and it was worth it for the god-tier soundtrack alone. Plus it was just cute as fuck.
the nailed the robot theme.
But the direct was mainly nothing but ports. It was awful
I liked Rainbow but it was definitely because of the aesthetic more than anything else. The lack of Copy abilities even though they did it in Canvas was disappointing.
Shit, I was wondering what I was forgetting. No copy abilities was a huge bummer. You couldn't even fucking play as anyone else like in Canvas Curse, just weird little amiibo costumes that you could only use once a day because fuck you, I guess. Speed was greatly reduced from Canvas Curse as well, which makes no sense. You'd think with the widescreen of the Wii U gamepad compared to the DS, they'd go way crazier with the rolling and speed-boosting shenanigans.
Level design is easy: rooms connected by doors. The problem comes from the minimalist controls. I don't think they'll be too complex personally. Y is attack. B is jump; hold to hover. X lets Kirby hold what he inhales/remove ability; can also put what Kirby is holding back in mouth. A is context. A lets Kirby sprint, pick up things, drop things, open doors, press buttons, etc. zL/L* is crouch, swallows, and drop pound. L centers camera. zR/R* is guard. Right stick tilts camera at intervals like Mario 3D world. Rooms use a semi-fixed camera that can be rotated freely. Clicking stick centers camera.
*sL and sR are used in single joycon play. To tilt camera in single joycon mode hold stick and press face buttons.
+ and - are menu. D-buttons are map shortcuts and amiibo.
I'm sure we can simplify it a bit more by removing the mouth and context buttons. Could run like Smash by tapping stick.
I hate how they had a playable bandana dee yet never had an extra mode for him
I messed up on L centering camera. That's a left over from editing. The game will be made with single joycon play. To center camera click right stick. Or in single joycon play by pressing all four buttons at once. The camera can be tilted full 360 degrees at eighth intervals laterally. There will be five levels of tilt for vertical. Rooms and enemies will be designed in a way that you won't have to tilt the camera much. Boss battles will have fixed cinematic cameras. Think of Kirby playing like a 3D smash bros game with two extra buttons.
So basically Blowout Blast but with copy abilities?
Aside from a cryptic comment from the devs about Star Allies being too ambitious (Which is kind of silly because it's a pretty lazy game) I don't see how Kirby is over.
Also they released that fightan game so they haven't cancelled the series' yet.
>yfw
I think so. But my idea is to have exploring to be as fun as combat. The game will have a map and rooms will be interconnected. There's even some verticality in some places. That's why you can rotate the camera semi-freely. There might be something hidden behind that wall if you change your perspective.
I hope they bring dark matter back soon instead of just teasing it
i'm pretty sure the clone from robobot is the closest thing we're going to get
At first I figured it was never gonna happen, but after Robobot and all the Dark Matter/Zero cockteasing with Void Termina I have no clue.
Eh, dark matter has kind of been a threat in a ton of games already, personally, I’d like a new reocurring threat that’s occasionally teased and even fought
I have to agree, as much as I like Dark Matter he and Zero are kind of done. Tell you what though, the Mirror has a lot of potential.
would a modern sequel to amazing mirror be good
Would make for a good 3d game, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 3d metroidvania
>metroid prime
Aw come on, don't get my hopes up. Amazing Mirror has always been one of my favorites. I'd love to see it live up to the potential it could have. The further along you progress, the more access to different abilities you have and cool different ways to move around the map and access to all sorts of unlockable goodies shows up.
i liked being able to color my kirb, there was the snow white one, chocolate, seafoam green, was awesome
Speaking of dark matter trilogy, would you play a Kirby game that takes place on Ripple Star? I'd like to see Kirby explore an alien fairy planet. It could have lots of different areas based on different fairy tales.
It was good but not THAT good lol
I mean, Triple Deluxe already did the "Jack and the Beanstalk" thing.
Shit, I always forget about that but it was a damn good feature. One of the few things Squeak Squad improved on with its color selection. I was always partial to Sapphire, Carbon, and Chalk.
Who's ready for Kirby 3d?
definitely not HAL
I wonder what HAL's gimmick will be for 3D Kirby?
I can't be the only one that prefers Magolor's first boss theme to CROWNED, right?
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Didn't a spin-off release just like 2 months ago?
>tfw Mario is dead
I like how sonic and the dark matter trilogy does this. Kino af.
>Just admit you fell for the nintendo scam of front-loading 1st party games for the launch window
So two or three games?
Ado is good but she's not an anal queen like Suzie
How did that fuck over HAL at the time?
Bumpin'.
hey yo, is there any social media you post on? i wanna see updates for this without having to go to treads
Um how come kirbo is a Christian
Some dude got pissed about in the comments, so out of spite basically.
If I remember correctly Susie and Kirby share the same voice actor.
if it draws the fatfags into just one place then keep doing you
If Kirby beat the shit out of me I'd still want to be his friend.
Take that back!
waiting for the funny WG dude
Both set out to do different things, but both of them are still fucking excellent. Also, have an arrangement in the 64/SSU soundfounts. youtube.com
Recently I began to replay and was quickly reminded that I always hated that blue turd.
Easiest way to play kirby 64 nowadays on pc? Emulating Wii U?
It means the dog is raising some one else's kid
Wouldn't it be easier to emulate N64?
Amazing
Maybe, from what I heard Wii U emulation is supposed to be very good and can play a lot of retro stuff, but n64 emulation seems like it runs good too.
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Awesome.
Do you have the Daroach GIF standalone?
Oh hell yeah, I was thinking this thread would be dead by the time I woke up. Thanks bros.
What are the chances we get an amazing mirror 2?
Perhaps if it's 3D with 2P co-op?
why is star allies so easy
i have +100 lives
Levels had to be ridiculously expansive and easy to accommodate the maximum 4 players. Regular enemies in Kirby haven't actually been a challenge since about 2-3 generations ago. Game absolutely showers you with lives. The abilities keep getting cooler and more OP but the enemies are pretty much the same as the old Game Boy games.
Yo Zim doodleanon? What are you doing drawing Kirbos?
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>source: dude trust me
Please kill yourself
retard feg
is the 30th anniversary going to be kino?
Fuck Susie, Ribbon is made for BPC
Big Poyo Cuddles.
>Port shit
What about No More Heroes 3?
Or Famicom Detective Club remakes?
Or World's End Club?
Or Monster Hunter?
Or Splatoon 3?
Or that new mario golf game?
Those aren't ports.
Don't forget Project Triangle. I wonder if Kirby would be into video games.
Yeah, Hal loves celebrations.
I bet he owns a CRT and plays retro games when friends come over
imagine a kirby game with actual challenge
I made my own website. Trying to distance myself from Tw*tter
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Still a work in progress
cutest logo
I consistently get game overs in every Kirby game I play other than Star Allies and maybe Super Star.
that's kinda weird and pathetic
i've only ever died to later/final bosses
do you get anything out of soul melter and the arenas or is that stuff also piss easy for you.
>mfw drawing something but won't be done before thread is dead
i've been waiting since 2019 user please
Oh yeah, the new one has a difficulty thing. I forgot.
Maybe I'll try that.
Amazing Mirror, Canvas Curse, Mass Attack and Crystal Shards are decently challenging.
But I wish Extra Mode-like difficulty wasn't locked until you completed the game.
>Doing the controller trick
infuriating doesn't cut it, some of them are straight bullshit, fucking "hey, use this parthner specifically at the very end of a level that is no way built for the parthner you need", or the fucking UFO puzzle at the top, fucking "hey, spend hours trying again and again until you make it to the top!"
I want the next game to focus more on the lore of the Ancients.
same here. it'd be fucking awesome if they somehow tied in galacta knight to be part of the main story
do you know who the other 3 Aeon Heroes were?
Do you think the whole Half Waxing and Waning Moon masks in KF2 has anything to do with the ancients.
Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to tell if the game is even canon. But considering how much the Ancients are responsible for (the Clockwork Stars, the Fountain of Dreams and the Star Rod, etc.), it seems likely.
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This Kirby cover from a decade ago references a waxing and waning moon.
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The stuff the Ancients were responsible for are really specific (the Halcandra stuff, plus the NOVA/Fountain system). It probably isn't a good idea to just assume any ancient cursed artifact was crafted by these guys.
Plus, we basically already got the Ancients' game, and it took 7 years before even that happened. Unless Halcandra is in the next game, we probably won't get that much info for a while except maybe Galacta and the three other heroes
I want to get some background on Morpho, though I think he's connected the most to the ancients at the very least.
I'm not sure if the Knight part of Morpho Knight is even his real form, he might have just stolen Galacta Knight's body, I mean there was the heart symbol.
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That's a fair point, for all we know he could just take the form of anyone he attaches himself to. Maybe we'll eventually get a idea of his true form in the future though I do have a theory that whatever race Kirby, Meta Knight and Galacta Knight, etc. are is descendent from the ancients.
What would happen if Morpho fuses with Kirby?
Would a Kirby Super Star 2 on Switch containing all of Kirby's hits since N64 work?
Maybe he's been trying to all this time.
Wouldn't that just be Dream Collection 2 then? I wouldn't mind a Super Star 2 with whole new stories though.
Either Morpho would become invincible or it just doesn't work.
Oh I forgot that existed. Dream Collection 2 would make more sense for what I'm talking about, but actual SS2 would be cool as well.
I'd like Dream Collection 2 to be remastered versions of RTDL, TD and PR.
oh no
>I wouldn't mind a Super Star 2 with whole new stories though.
i remember a good while ago some anons thought of a super star-esque game where it's themed around horror/halloween. maybe that'd work if they decided to go for it.
That's what the true arena is there for. In Super Star Ultra the Helper arena is ludo tier.
heres a hot spicy take. epic yarn is a more punishing game then star allies
I remember that, having a specific theme like planet robobot but having it be broad enough that you can make several different sub games out of it like superstar would be perfect
I’d love a collection with remakes of the flagship games in the kumazaki engine and remasters of the kumazaki games
>robobot HD
Imagine.