The top federal prosecutor for the District of Columbia said Friday that investigators have not uncovered direct evidence at this point of any "kill/capture teams" targeting elected officials during the U.S. Capitol insurrection, contradicting allegations made earlier by federal prosecutors in Arizona.
U.S. prosecutors in Arizona said Thursday in a court filing against Jacob Chansley, also known as the "QAnon Shaman," that they have "strong evidence" members of the pro-Trump mob wanted to "capture and assassinate" officials.
Chansley, the subject of the motion filed in Arizona, wore horns, face paint and fur on Jan. 6 as he stood on the Senate dais – where he left a threatening note for Vice President Pence, according to federal prosecutors in that state.
Chansley is charged with two felonies: obstructing the conduct of a law enforcement officer and obstructing an official proceeding. Prosecutors say that as he committed those actions, Chansley was also carrying a dangerous weapon – specifically, "a six-foot spear."
Prosecutors say Chansley should remain in custody for a variety of reasons, including his part in the riot and his avowed intent to return to Washington to protest Biden's upcoming inauguration.
"I'll still go, you better believe it," he is quoted telling the FBI. "For sure I'd want to be there, as a protestor, as a protestor, f***in' a."
Jackson Richardson
This says nothing that honest people didn't know. It was just dishonestly blown out of proportion so they could vilify Trumps people.
Kayden Brown
The U.S. attorney's office also says that Chansley would not likely conform to court-imposed conditions on his release, noting that while in custody, he has refused to eat anything other than organic food. Prosecutors also note that Chansley has shown he can travel without being traced. And because he is widely associated with the horns-and-fur costume and face paint he wore at the Capitol, prosecutors say, Chansley "is virtually unidentifiable when not wearing it."
The memorandum, like other documents prosecutors have filed in Chansley's case, notes he refers to himself and other rioters as "patriots." The filing gives new details about how prosecutors view the insurrection – a term the U.S. attorney's office used repeatedly in its filing.
"Chansley has made himself the symbol of a radicalized insurrection movement, and has professed his intent to act in the future as he did at the Capitol on January 6," the memorandum says.
It notes Chansley's status as a "shaman" within QAnon, which the prosecutors variously define as "a dangerous extremist group ... founded on an imaginary conspiracy theory," and a cult that "preaches debunked and fictitious anti-government conspiracy theories that a deep state is out to take down the current administration."
Describing the threat it says the defendant poses, the memo says, "Strong evidence, including Chansley's own words and actions at the Capitol, supports that the intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States Government. "
Camden Johnson
what were the zip ties for?
Isaac Torres
>Picked them off ground. But question how come all the officers they overturned weren't restrained if they had em.
Two men who may not have been coordinating with each other just doesn't constitute "teams" I guess.
Parker Morgan
Yes technically 2 people is a "team" but ratio wise to the rest of the rioters/ stormers its not much
Christian Powell
>implying Trump's people didn't deserve to be vilified
Lincoln Lee
It isn't news that a drooling mob of violent cultists didn't have coordinated ops teams. The lack of an organized attempt to assassinate politicians isn't a refutation of the massive amounts of evidence we have of a very unorganized attempt to assassinate politicians.
Nathaniel Gomez
>It's already to dress in full military gear and body army to a 'peaceful' protest >It was a false flag! Imagine this cope.
Tell that to the two terrorists who tried to capture and kill senators who were found to be hardcore Trump people.
Jordan Jackson
Look everyone, it's the Dab Forumsppet who's still stuck in 2016!
Landon Flores
they're just going to let these people off with a couple years of prison tops by saying they were just patriots who loved their country but got duped by trump and q bullshit.
Brandon Ward
Slightly out of date considering we have a thread in the catalog right now that has the dialogue of a kill team coordinating the hunt for Pence and other Congressmen Trump had told them were traitors.
Juan Martinez
>Cope Gave reason people were body armor and bump helmets to protest bro you are coping so hard. Ok dumbass does that mean you can't cover your face at a protest at a ICE facility? Or have a gas mask when protesting the police ? Imagine the cognitive dissonance.
Gabriel Phillips
Oh yeah this is 15th. Little out of date then.
Luke Rodriguez
If you can't vilify them without blowing things out of proportion and lying, then they don't deserve to be vilified. If you can vilify them without doing that, then there's no reason to blow things out of proportion and lie.
Liam Cooper
This one is not turing complete.
James Lee
Of course there was no evidence, the media that reports this HEAVILY funds the Democrat party and they act as their propoganda wing Not far off from the state owned media in China
Jonathan Thompson
There's pictures of the rioters literally carrying the zipties.
Josiah Edwards
Good thing the GOP doesn't totally fund the media that told you that.
Jeremiah Gutierrez
This should come as a surprise to no one who isn't an idiot who just believes whatever shit opinion the MSM tries to feed them.
Trump supporters overwhelmingly own guns and ammo. If the Capitol riot was truly a "Violent insurrection" you would have seen shots fired from the Trump crowd. Not a single bullet fired from them, and not a single AR was in the Capitol building. This tells anyone who is not a dipshit that it was just dumb rednecks having a riot and that the "MUH VIOLENT TAKEOVER ATTACK ON OUR DEMOCRACY HURRRR" is a standard pundit spin making a mountain out of a molehill for the sake of political optics.
Imagine being stupid enough to not see this.
Jaxson Reed
This is why nobody can explain what exactly was the plan for this coup if they succeeded, or how kidnapping/killing congressmen would have overthrown the government as if whoever is next in line wouldn't be put in charge.
Eli Lewis
Well, when just over 500 people break into the capitol building, screaming "Where is AOC!?" and "Hang Pence!!!" all the while, causing security to sweep all the VIP's to lock them into safe rooms and their offices, just barely in time to prevent any of those folks with zip cuffs and pipe bombs from taking hostages, and then, frustrated in their efforts by said security, said 500 people smear their feces all over the few offices they do manage to break into...
...What exactly does call that, if not a shitty insurrection?
Angel Martin
Oh, you don't know the definition of the word 'violent'. That's cute. Hint: They assaulted police officers, had explosives and were clearly planning to take hostages and / or execute members of the government.
Also yes, this is Trump's fault. American blood on his hands.
Gabriel Reyes
The fact that Trump's knuckle dragging supporters didn't think their plan through is not evidence that they didn't have a general intention on causing damage to the electoral process.
>Trump supporters overwhelmingly own guns and ammo. If the Capitol riot was truly a "Violent insurrection" you would have seen shots fired from the Trump crowd. I love this arbitrary condition you've set. I wonder if you'd be this charitable to a BLM rally. I mean, given this logic, if a bunch of them planted pipe bombs, destroyed government buildings and set things on fire it couldn't TECHNICALLY be considered a violent riot because they didn't bring guns, right?
David Rivera
There's no line of succession for congressmen.
If the other ~15,000 people outside had followed those ~500 in and slaughtered congress (or even if those ~500 had been more aggressive), it would have left Trump, his friends, and his appointees in charge, and they would have been wholly justified in declaring martial law at that point.
Which probably would have lead to civil war, as Trump loyalists in the military and those who saw the event as a coup clashed, but the end result likely would be what we're looking at in Malaysia now.
We came very close to the end of America, and if things had gone even slightly differently, we probably wouldn't currently have an internet to argue about it on.
Isaac Ortiz
We must not underestimate the low intelligence of Americans, where 60% of adults believe in Creationism rather than evolution theory. Trump is just a symbol of arrogant, selfish, and poorly foresighted Americans. His supporters, who are easily deceived by conspiracy theories and fake, are victims of inadequate low-level education. What they need is not punishment, exclusion, criticism or neglect, i.e., hatred, but media/science literacy, logical thinking, problem-solving ability, treatment of delusional personality disorder by psychotherapy/counseling, i.e., love. Thanks to political amateur Trump administration, the USA had been ridiculed from all over the world, and its international credibility, leadership, and persuasiveness have been lost. Of course, there are people around the world who are self-indulgent in radical thought. Education is not perfect. But mob rule repeats itself if we don't provide the best education for our children
"Emotions Self-Responsibility Theory"
Dylan Gray
>were clearly planning to take hostages and / or execute members of the government.
You got evidence for this claim? Because that would help prosecuters out tremendously. If not, maybe like, shut up.
Matthew Cook
Did they not burn down a bunch of buildings, murder people, cause mass destruction and vandalism and get called "mostly peaceful protests"? Or are you just autistic?
Carson Reed
They had zip cuffs (which are used for retraining hostages) and had set up a gallows outside of the capital. All of this is on film, some of which was broadcasted live.
Not sure why I need to explain this to you. This has been blasted all over the news for weeks.
Aaron Thomas
You'd have to be clinically brain dead to believe there's any substance in the accusation. Unfortunately, anti-Trumpers have repeatedly demonstrated they are functionally lobotomised and incapable of rational higher thought just by mentioning 'Trump' in a conversation.
Brandon Cruz
Says the guy who's avoided reading anything in the thread because doing so would shatter his world view into tiny specks of dust.
Jose Bennett
Right, when you see the media conglomerates outright lying to your face about anything Trump related, strategically, in unison, even down to weekly keywords and you watch the other side either A. Take the propaganda at face value (like a Qtard would) or B. Disingenuously "reason" around quasi reports, throwing caution to the wind and completely undermining close to center all together i.e. arguing for their audience/against the opposing and disregarding those who were watching both sides. There's really nothing you can do besides believe everything. I, undeniably, have witnessed leftist corporate, political, Media and social entities at all levels orchestrate malicious propaganda that has done irreparable damage. I would expect it from the right however I would expect it to be more reasonable. What I saw occur this year from the left was a blatant display of disrespect and reckless insincerity. I.e. "Drumpf said inject bleach" "Drumpf said asians bad, keep them out" "Drumpf is putting kids in cages" "Drumpf is trying to stronghand SOS over phonecall" "Drumpf says Covid isnt real" all examples I will not argue about because I've seen the full context of all instances, which, if you had too, you would know for yourself that the conglomerates fabricated and twisted completely out of context (if they didn't just abandon context and original intention all together, for their headliners). That being said, who can you blame for the misinformation and slippery slope of boomers starting at
>Hey he didn't say that, they're lying
And ending up at
>I DONT TRUST ANYTHING THESE PEOPLE SAY, I WOULDN'T FOR A MOMENT DOUBT THAT THEY DO HAVE A SACRIFICIAL CULT. I WOULDN'T BELIEVE IT IF THEY DIDN'T AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO RIG THE ELECTION GIVEN THE BLATANT CRONYISM IVE SEEN OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS! THESE PEOPLE ARE CHILD MOLESTING, ORGAN EATING DEMONS THAT HAVE OUR COUNTRY IN CHAINS!
Jayden Turner
Oh wow, gee, that's some damming evidence. Why didn't the prosecutors think of that?
Colton Morales
What prosecutors are you talking about?
Michael Walker
It was truly propoganda. He was a pretty poor statesman, absolutely. But holy shit was there a hardcore domestic propoganda machine working 24/7 to make sure they got in office a candidate that would play ball with them. When porky needs someone to do their bidening, one of the worst choices is an opposing porky. Porky's gotta get the opposing porky out of office so that porky's puppet can get in and can do what they want
Easton Russell
They should just let them off. Time to move forward. It’s basically looking like it does on the surface; angry people fucking shit up at the Capital. If they wanted to kill people I fell like they would have been more violent. Honestly if trump had run into a bunch of antifa protesters sans secret service he would have been in more danger.
Caleb Sanders
all the shitard republicans in this thread trying in vain to say it didnt matter you killed your own party with your chimp out. Cope
Owen Turner
I think they kind of underestimated their opponents. I don't think they realized they were trying to lie to/about people who would literally watch Trump talk for hours every single day. I also don't think the psuedo-intellectual leftist brats really understand that angle either. I've been in a weird position where I've actually regressed back into boomer territory (in ideologies) simply from what I saw this year alone. I know the young leftists pretentious ways and that they truly believe they're just dealing with ignorant people on the right but they really don't understand how a lot of us ended up here today. And they also refuse to acknowledge that their "professionals" and "experts" are no better. If they saw them from where I'm at, they'd understand it. There are things you can't learn from other people, these particular leftist types I have in mind, aren't capable of understanding that and they're bound to human models and metaphors made up by others who, like the rest of us, spend their entire lives readjusting and learning and might not have been as absolute as they perceive them to be. In today's case, these specific left types I am growing to absolutely despise, are hyperaffixed on progressivism. I only mention that because that means they are that much worse when it comes to basing their beliefs off of others *unproven theories and viewing them as absolute because it comes from an accepted source who has some form of "forward thinking" status. I didn't want Trump as a representative but if it at least slowed down some predictable special interests, it was better than anything they could offer. At least he pushed against the sterile society a little bit. Never really felt genuine but whatever, no one else will speak up without being a total narcissist or absolutely undeniably correct in intention, theory and practice.
Angel Garcia
Sounds like me ten years ago.
There’s some lessons parents cannot teach their children, due to their relative position, and we’re all doomed to eventually become our parents, as we learn those same lessons from other sources. Such has been the circle of life since Cain killed Able, and learned the lesson he couldn’t learn from God from a witch in the darkness, founding the first city to teach the rest of mankind, so they wouldn’t have to learn the same hard lesson the same hard way.
Group communication, and communication over the internet between groups, is generally a heartless mirror, so the only light it can give is dazzling and reflective, whether one sees that reflection as a hungry eagle or a fearful mouse. Thus each collective can only see its opponents as broken or evil, even though they can get along just fine with individual members of said, sometimes even admire them. That’s specifically why we have a president, and not just a congress, beyond expediency of action. Despite our founders being so dead set against having a king, they recognized the role of one - an individual who could act as the heart of the nation that could talk directly to the people, where all the other groups could not.
...and yes, the car has been stuck in a bit of an unavoidable rut as of late, so a lot of us welcomed a gremlin knocking about in the engine. However, more of us realized, in the end, we still need this car running to stay ahead of the oncoming flood.
Jace Carter
There's no direct evidence because it doesn't exist. It's fake news, and Democrats are gullible mushrooms for giving the cool aid their lefty news media are feeding them any credence. Useful low information idiots are just being brainwashed to the narrative of the Democrat party line.
Chase Campbell
If it was peaceful protest, you wouldn't be going to a protest dressed in full military gear and have guns. Also >Trying to blame Antifa and the media Way to prove you're a Trump coup shill
Logan Hill
Wow almost like the "insurrection" never actually happened but conglomerated media only see fit to relieve us of the burden of ambiguity now that Biden is free to turn US into a totalitarian hellhole without free and fair real elections..
Anthony Garcia
>"military gear" >having guns >not peaceful Noguns need to fuck off.
Hudson Myers
>Pre-planned There goes the "incitement" charge against Trump.
Elijah Butler
>I wonder if you'd be this charitable to a BLM rally
Yes actually I absolutely would, due to the fact that I am not a partisan retard. Protests and riots regardless of whether you agree with the cause are protests and riots. Calling a bunch of dumbshit Qboomers pulling a IRL r/thedonald shitpost in the Capitol a "Violent coup" is retarded and anyone who tries should be openly mocked as the retard that they are.
Terrorism/coup is a very serious allegation, and thus tossing it at everything is a fallacy of exaggeration.
Kevin Gray
Right, and the guy in Pelosi's office was just looking for the bathroom...
Matthew Watson
Breaking into congress, forcing them into their offices and safe rooms, is a very serious act.
Interrupting a government process through illegal force, is insurrection, by definition. As they were there on behalf of a president to be legally removed by that same process, it is indeed an attempted coup.
But I'm proud of those mother fuckers for their attempt to remind the government that one cannot rule through committee alone, and the pain and fear the struggle of cancelation has put many Americans in. To call their act insurrection anything less, is an insult to the risk they took on behalf of the nation. Had it been anything more, it would have been the end of the nation, so they got it just right.
Sadly, I don't think middle management got the message. Suppose we'll have to wait to see what they give us in 2024, to see if either the upper management or the customer base did.
Caleb Hall
Them being completely retarded doesn't change what they ended up participating in, though.
Blake Flores
>Interrupting a government process through illegal force, is insurrection, by definition.
Welp, time to impeach every member of congress that supported the antifa riots in Portland.
Several members of congress encouraged the July 6th insurrection as well, even if unintentionally, and more government officials still were responsible for the security forces being unprepared.
Not even sure if Trump's effort was wholly intentional, so much as he was star-struck by himself, but that's no excuse for the behavior or the results, so much as mitigation at the sentencing phase.
Most of all, I blame all the talking heads and architects of broken worlds that is the media, always insisting that the opposition must be wiped from this earth, instead of serving as a check and balance against one another. Sadly, they rarely gather in one place, and a case against them would be the hardest of all.
There's very little justice in this world, but lots of revenge.
Jayden Roberts
This is the true redpill on American politics. Both parties have tons of congress members that are basically corrupt pieces of hypocritical shit that play the optics game and fully deserve to be removed from office.
The only reason half these turds even hold office in the first place is because of a lack of ranked choice voting. Dems bitch about voter suppression, but then collude with the GOP to block actual meaningful voter reform. The truth is GOP and DNC are just each others controlled opposition.
Mason Brown
ActualBased
Christian Perry
>n-no it totally counts because we said they wanted to kill them . . .
Jack Hall
As they stalk through the halls chanting “hang Mike Pence” and construct a gallows on the capital lawn.
Yup all libs overreacting...
Gabriel Perry
Even if they do, you poison chances of convicting if you lie about it
