Republican Ties to Far Right Wing Terrorist Groups and Seditionists Are Under Scrutiny

A number of members of Congress have links to organizations and movements that played a role in the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol.

nytimes.com/2021/01/29/us/republicans-trump-capitol-riot.html

WASHINGTON — The video’s title was posed as a question, but it left little doubt about where the men who filmed it stood. They called it “The Coming Civil War?” and in its opening seconds, Jim Arroyo, who leads an Arizona chapter of Oath Keepers, a right-wing militia, declared that the conflict had already begun.

To back up his claim, Mr. Arroyo cited Representative Paul Gosar of Arizona, one of the most far-right members of Congress. Mr. Gosar had paid a visit to the local Oath Keepers chapter a few years earlier, Mr. Arroyo recounted, and when asked if the United States was headed for a civil war, the congressman’s “response to the group was just flat out: ‘We’re in it. We just haven’t started shooting at each other yet.’”

Less than two months after the video was posted, members of the Oath Keepers were among those with links to extremist groups from around the country who took part in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, prompting new scrutiny of the links between members of Congress and an array of organizations and movements that espouse far-right beliefs.

Nearly 150 House Republicans supported President Donald J. Trump’s baseless claims that the election had been stolen from him. But Mr. Gosar and a handful of other Republican members of the House had deeper ties to extremist groups who pushed violent ideas and conspiracy theories and whose members were prominent among those who stormed the halls of Congress in an effort to stop certification of President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory.

Their ranks include Representative Andy Biggs of Arizona, who like Mr. Gosar was linked to the “Stop the Steal” campaign backing Mr. Trump’s effort to overturn the election’s outcome.

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Representative Lauren Boebert of Colorado has close connections to militia groups including the so-called Three Percenters, an extremist offshoot of the gun rights movement that had at least one member who entered the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene has promoted the QAnon conspiracy theory, whose adherents were among the most visible of those who stormed the building, and she appeared at a rally with militia groups.

Before being elected to Congress last year, Ms. Greene used social media in 2019 to endorse executing top Democrats and has suggested that the 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., was a staged “false flag” attack. The liberal group Media Matters for America reported on Thursday that Ms. Greene also speculated on Facebook in 2018 that California wildfires might have been started by lasers from space, promoting a theory pushed by followers of QAnon.

Representative Matt Gaetz of Florida appeared last year at an event also attended by members of the Proud Boys, another extremist organization whose role in the Jan. 6 assault, like those of the Oath Keepers and Three Percenters, is being investigated by the F.B.I.
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It is not clear whether any elected officials played a role in directly facilitating the attack on the Capitol, other than helping to incite violence through false statements about the election being stolen from Mr. Trump. Officials have said they are investigating reports from Democrats that a number of House Republicans provided tours of the Capitol and other information to people who might have gone on to be part of the mob on Jan. 6. So far, no evidence has surfaced publicly to back up those claims.

Ms. Boebert said in a statement that she had “never given a tour of the U.S. Capitol to anyone besides family members in town for my swearing-in,” and she called accusations from Democrats that she gave a “reconnaissance tour” to insurgents an “irresponsible lie.” After the riot at the Capitol, she said she did not support “unlawful acts of violence.”

Mr. Biggs has denied associating with Stop the Steal organizers and condemned violence “of any kind.”

“Were you aware of any planned demonstration or riot at the U.S. Capitol to take place after the rally on Jan. 6, 2021? No,” Mr. Biggs said in a statement.

A spokesman for Ms. Greene said she now rejects QAnon, and he tried to distance her from militia members.

“She doesn’t have anything to do with it,” her communications director, Nick Dyer, said of QAnon. “She thinks it’s disinformation.” As for the militia members, he said, “Those people were at one event independently of Congresswoman Greene.”

Mr. Gosar did not respond to requests for comment.

Mr. Gaetz, on his podcast, said the Proud Boys were at the event he attended to provide security, and that “just because you take a picture with someone,” it does not mean “you’re tied to every viewpoint they’ve ever had or that they will ever have in the future.”

But in signaling either overt or tacit support, a small but vocal band of Republicans now serving in the House provided legitimacy and publicity to extremist groups and movements as they built toward their role in supporting Mr. Trump’s efforts to subvert the outcome of the 2020 election and the attack on Congress.

Aitan D. Goelman, a former federal prosecutor who helped convict the Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, said that when elected officials — or even candidates for office — took actions like appearing with militia groups or other right-wing groups it “provides them with an added imprimatur of legitimacy.”

An examination of many of the most prominent elected Republicans with links to right-wing groups also shows how various strands of extremism came together at the Capitol on Jan. 6.

>In July, Mr. Gosar, a dentist, posed for a picture with a member of the Proud Boys. Two years earlier, he spoke at a rally for a jailed leader of Britain’s anti-immigrant fringe in London, where he vilified Muslim immigrants as a “scourge.” And in 2014, he traveled to Nevada to support the armed standoff between law enforcement and supporters of the cattle rancher Cliven Bundy, who had refused to stop trespassing on federal lands.

> Mr. Biggs, the chairman of the hard-right House Freedom Caucus, was seen by leaders of the Stop the Steal movement as an inspiration and has spoken at events hosted by extremists, including one at which a founder of the Oath Keepers called for hanging Senator John McCain.

>Ms. Boebert, elected to the House in November, said on Twitter that “Today is 1776” on the morning of Jan. 6, and she has connections to the Three Percenters, which shares her view that gun rights are under assault. At least one member of the group has been arrested in the breach of the Capitol.

>Ms. Greene has for years trafficked in conspiracy theories, expressed support for QAnon and made offensive remarks about Black people, Jews and Muslims. She also appeared at a campaign event alongside members of the Three Percenters.

To some degree, the members of Congress have been reflecting signals sent by Mr. Trump.

During a presidential debate in October, he made a nod toward the Proud Boys, telling them to “stand back and stand by.” Two months earlier, Mr. Trump described followers of QAnon — several of whom have been charged with murder, domestic terrorism, planned kidnapping and, most recently, storming the Capitol — as “people that love our country,” adding that “they do supposedly like me.”

>Stop the Steal

Few Republicans have been more linked to extremist groups than Mr. Gosar.

“He’s been involved with anti-Muslim groups and hate groups,” said Mr. Gosar’s brother Dave Gosar, a lawyer in Wyoming. “He’s made anti-Semitic diatribes. He’s twisted up so tight with the Oath Keepers it’s not even funny.”

Dave Gosar and other Gosar siblings ran ads denouncing their brother as a dangerous extremist when he ran for Congress in 2018. Now they are calling on Congress to expel him.

“We warned everybody how dangerous he was,” Dave Gosar said.

In the days after the 2020 election, Mr. Gosar and Mr. Biggs helped turn Arizona into a crucible for the Stop the Steal movement, finding common cause with hard-liners who until then had toiled in obscurity, like Ali Alexander. The two congressmen recorded a video, “This Election Is A Joke,” which was viewed more than a million times and spread disinformation about widespread voter fraud.

Mr. Alexander has said he “schemed up” the Jan. 6 rally with Mr. Gosar, Mr. Biggs and another vocal proponent of Stop the Steal, Representative Mo Brooks of Alabama. Mr. Alexander’s characterization of the role of the members of Congress is exaggerated, Mr. Biggs said, but the lawmakers were part of a larger network of people who helped plan and promote the rally as part of Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the will of the voters.

After the election, Mr. Alexander emerged as a vocal proponent of the president’s stolen election claims, setting up a Stop the Steal website on Nov. 4 and making incendiary statements. On Dec. 8, he tweeted that he was willing to give up his life to keep Mr. Trump in office.

The Arizona Republican Party followed up, retweeting Mr. Alexander’s post and adding: “He is. Are you?” Mr. Alexander has since been barred from Twitter.

Ten days later, Mr. Gosar was one of the headliners at a rally in Phoenix that Mr. Alexander helped organize. Mr. Gosar used the rally to deliver a call to action, telling the crowd that they planned to “conquer the Hill” to return Mr. Trump to the presidency.

During his time onstage, Mr. Alexander called Mr. Gosar “my captain” and added, “One of the other heroes has been Congressman Andy Biggs.”

Although Mr. Biggs has played down his involvement with the Stop the Steal campaign, on Dec. 19, Mr. Alexander played a video message from Mr. Biggs to an angry crowd at an event where attendees shouted violent slogans against lawmakers. At the event, Mr. Biggs’s wife, Cindy Biggs, was seen hugging Mr. Alexander twice and speaking in his ear.

In 2019, Mr. Biggs spoke at an event supported by the Patriot Movement AZ, AZ Patriots and the American Guard — all identified as hate groups by the Southern Poverty Law Center, according to The Arizona Republic. In 2015, he sat silent at an event as a founder of the Oath Keepers called for the hanging of Senator McCain, calling him a traitor to the Constitution. Mr. Biggs told The Republic at the time that he did not feel it was his place to speak up and denounce the comments.

Mr. Arroyo, of the Oath Keepers in Arizona, said Mr. Gosar had attended two of their meetings, about a year apart. Mr. Arroyo said that his organization “does not advocate for breaking the law” and that he was “saddened to see the display of trespassing on the Capitol building by a few out-of-control individuals.”

Just like Mr. Gosar’s family, Mr. Biggs’s two brothers have publicly denounced him, saying he was at least partly responsible for the violence on Jan. 6. In addition, a Democratic state representative in Arizona, Athena Salman, has called on the Justice Department to investigate the actions of Mr. Gosar and Mr. Biggs before the riot, saying they “encouraged, facilitated, participated and possibly helped plan this anti-democratic insurrection.”

>‘I Am the Militia’

In December 2019, hundreds of protesters descended on the Colorado Statehouse to oppose a new state law meant to take firearms out of the hands of emotionally disturbed people.

Among those at the rally were members of the Three Percenters, which federal prosecutors describe as a “radical militia group,” and a congressional hopeful with a history of arrests named Lauren Boebert, who was courting their votes. Armed with her own handgun, she posed for photographs with militia members and defiantly pledged to oppose the law.

In the months that followed, militia groups would emerge as one of Ms. Boebert’s crucial political allies. As her campaign got underway last year, she wrote on Twitter, “I am the militia.”

Militia members provided security for her campaign events and frequented the restaurant she owns, Shooters Grill in Rifle, Colo. In a recently posted video, a member of the Three Percenters was filmed giving Ms. Boebert a Glock 22 handgun.

Another member of the group, Robert Gieswein, who posed for a photograph in front of Ms. Boebert’s restaurant last year, is facing federal charges in the storming of the Capitol and attacking the police.

Photographs from the attack show him clad in tactical gear, goggles and a helmet, wrestling with Capitol Police officers to remove metal barricades and brandishing a baseball bat. Prosecutors have also cited a video of Mr. Gieswein encouraging other rioters as they smashed a window at the Capitol.

Once inside, Mr. Gieswein was photographed with another suspect, Dominic Pezzola, a former Marine and a member of the Proud Boys, who has also been charged in the Capitol attack.

Ms. Boebert’s communications director, Benjamin Stout, said in an email that she “has always condemned all forms of political violence and has repeatedly made clear that those who stormed the U.S. Capitol should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.”

He added, “Simply because she takes a photo with someone that asks for one doesn’t mean she endorses every single belief they have or agrees with all other public statements or causes they support.”

>The QAnon Caucus

One of the animating forces behind the attack on the Capitol was the movement known as QAnon, and QAnon has few more high-profile supporters than Ms. Greene.

QAnon is a movement centered on the fantastical claim that Mr. Trump, secretly aided by the military, was elected to smash a cabal of Democrats, international financiers and “Deep State” bureaucrats who worship Satan and abuse children. It prophesied an apocalyptic showdown, known as “the Storm,” between Mr. Trump and his enemies. During the Storm, their enemies, including Mr. Biden and many Democratic and Republican members of Congress, would be arrested and executed.

The mob that attacked the Capitol included many visible QAnon supporters wearing “Q” shirts and waving “Q” banners.

Among them was Jake Angeli, a QAnon devotee who styled himself the “Q Shaman.” Mr. Angeli, whose real name is Jacob Chansley, stormed the Capitol in horns and animal furs, and left a note threatening Vice President Mike Pence.

Also among them was Ashli Babbitt, a QAnon believer who was shot and killed by a Capitol Police officer as she tried to climb through a window in a barricaded door near the House chamber.

Ms. Greene was an early adherent, calling QAnon “a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take this global cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles out.” Many of her Facebook posts in recent years reflected language used by the movement, talking about hanging prominent Democrats or executing F.B.I. agents.

Ms. Greene has also displayed a fondness for some of the militia groups whose members were caught on video attacking the Capitol, including the Oath Keepers and the Three Percenters.

Speaking in 2018 at the Mother of All Rallies, a pro-Trump gathering in Washington, she praised militias as groups that can protect people against “a tyrannical government.”

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fell asleep

Boring waste of time

everyone supports these people. Go away.

You all are very upset that the Republican party is the part of terrorists and traitors.

Nobody cares about what you do or don't. It's not the topic of this thread. Fuck off attention whore.

>slide the thread!

It shows how spineless Republicants really are. Initially they wholeheartedly supported the attempted overthrow of US Democracy but when the vast majority of the country rose up in outrage they immediately started cowering and weaseling around. Even that demon spawn Josh Hawley said a few days ago, "I never wanted the election results overturned, I just wanted investigations to ensure future elections are fair." Nevermind that he in fact cheered the mob storming the Capital and prior to that had point blank said Trump won by a landslide and the results must be thrown out. Slimeballs every one of them.

No he didnt, stop lying you leftist fuck

The Republicans are either complete nutjobs or snivelling cowards.

Cope harder insurrectionist and go lick some boots of your favorite leader who attempted to overthrow US Democracy.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9201973/amp/Hawley-claims-wasnt-trying-overturn-election-voted-against-counting-Biden-votes.html

This, they're basically full Nazis now in that when they're held accountable, they'll use the same excuse of 'I was just following orders'

>insurrectionist
based rebel republicans

Or use that time honored Nazi tactic of claiming it was a falseflag operation by the commies, joos and antifa. Or in the case of Ghouliani, the Lincoln Project, lol.

One state Republican party actually made an official release stating this and saying that Trump's failed coup was a reichstag fire to use against them.

>Dab Forums desperately trying to slide this thread.

>Dab Forums comes to Dab Forums

You're here, that's proof.

Guilt by association fallacy: The thread.

This is like saying that everyone who supports Antifa must agree with Michael Forest Reinoehl.

Stop being retarded.

t. assblasted magat cultist

>assblasted magat cultist
Ironic considering your choice of language.

or anyone who supported anitfa

>To back up his claim, Mr. Arroyo cited Representative Paul Gosar of Arizona, one of the most far-right members of Congress. Mr. Gosar had paid a visit to the local Oath Keepers chapter a few years earlier, Mr. Arroyo recounted, and when asked if the United States was headed for a civil war, the congressman’s “response to the group was just flat out: ‘We’re in it. We just haven’t started shooting at each other yet.’”
Gosar is my rep. Outspoken public opinion in his district is swinging wildly against him.

Turns out when you're a dentist too shit at your practice to keep your job, you're also shitty at everything else. Who'd have thought?

The Dems are rooting out the GOP's undesirables for them because the party leadership is spineless, feckless, cowardly, and know that their party very well could split in the next decade due to the influence that former President Trump still wields in the party.

>Gosar is my rep. Outspoken public opinion in his district is swinging wildly against him.
Isn't his district crazy gerrymandered in his favor so he'd still win re-election even though he was one of the main conspirators behind Trump's failed coup and acknowledged his own guilt by begging Trump for a Pardon?

Republicans have members who were co-conspirators in Trump's failed coup. They even begged Trump for a pardon since they knew they would be prosecuted for their sedition.
The fact that Republicans are running cover for them makes them complicate.
So your fallacy fallacy is a giant fail.

>Everyone who points out my logical inconsistencies must be just as much of a partisan retard as me!

nys directionbrain retard.

ITT: reddit and twitter neoliberalism comes to Dab Forums

This is a fact, I'll confess. But people in Kingman (the shitty tourist trap town that Sasha Baron Cohen trolled a few years back) at least are getting angry, and it's directed at him. A portion of hard cultists think he didn't do enough to overturn the election, but a good chunk are grumbling about how he lied to them and led them on about things that weren't possible.

The minority here have always hated him.

>Not a simble trumpoid brings one of their many ARs
>"It's a coup"

Calling it a coup doesn't make it a coup.

No, the attempt to prevent the certification of an election loss is an attempted coup. It being incredibly hamfisted and stupid doesn't mean there wasn't an attempt.

>prevent the certification of an election loss is an attempted coup.

Nice MSM pundit opinion that you have adopted as your own there. Too bad it's not what happened.

That's exactly what happened, as was shown in countless videos uploaded by the idiots to Parler. We all saw it with our own eyes. Oh yeah and your fuckin' morons screaming "YEAH WE DID IT!"
Dumbfuck

The experts already looked at what Trump and his terrorists did, it's was an attempted coup.
politifact.com/article/2021/jan/06/coup-heres-some-history-and-context-help-you-decid/

Just because they were complete retards doesn't change the fact it was a coup.

>a bunch of boomers were allowed to enter the capital building by the police
>terrorists
>assault
OP is a boot licking faggot

>Fallacy of exaggeration

Anyone can subjectively define anything as a coup if they are willing to perform the necessary intellectually dishonest mental gymnastics in order to do so. This is why subjective arguments like the one you are making are generally rejected by those of us with above 120 IQs, they literally mean nothing.

Here are the facts:
1. Trump supports overwhelmingly own automatic rifles. If they wanted this to be a coup, it would have at least ended in death for a number of congressmen. No ARs were brought, and no member of congress was even injured.
2. The total destruction pales in comparison to other riots during 2020.

These two facts are all anyone who is not mentally retarded needs to know to conclude that no violent coup occurred.

The reality is that the events of Jan6th were just a bunch of retarded boomers sperging out in the Capitol. Calling it a coup is an obviously deceptive optics ploy to demonize people whom you politically disagree with. Literal midwit logic.

>appeal to authority fallacy

That article is filled with so many double standards, subjective redefinitions, arguing semantics, and circular reasoning errors that It's actually funny.

If experts commit blatant errors of reasoning, they either aren't actually experts or ( in this case, far more likely ) it's just a pundit hit piece to demonize a certain political group. This is the same kind of circus used by Chairman Mao in the mid 1900s.

Cope harder maga cultist.

>experts
>politifact
lol libs get your shit together

>h-hey guys it didn't work when we celebrsted it as a great battle won, the first of many; it didn't work when we claimed the violence was bad but their intentions were noble because they love Dear Leader; it didn't work when we switched gears and claimed it was a false flag Reichstag Fire committed by antifa funded by Soros and accelerated by jewish space lasers; so now let's all just pretend nothing at all really happened accept a handful of rowdy good 'ol boys lost control of their bowels while touring the Capital, ok?

I'm a libertarian and voted for Jo Jo.

You are a directionbrain suffering from a terminal case of confirmation bias. You did not address either of the two facts I pointed out, because you know that you can't. No one in this thread will provide a rational explanation for how it can be a coup despite those facts either.

>Everyone who disagrees with me must be an antisemetic Qboomer.

lmao.

>Throws out a bunch of buzzwords and anti-intellectualism
Holy cope d'etat batman!

>I am this thing, honest!
I don't think so redditor.

Oh look you still didn't address the facts from

Get help, son

>Implying it wasn't a hive mind issue where the first people who showed up didn't have Assault Rifles, so everyone else then followed their lead because they didn't want to be targeted as the odd ones out.
>Implying they didn't have other fire arms or weapons that they used to maim and murder
>Implying we didn't see them using military tactics like Ranger file when breaching the capital and have intel on exactly where the offices of certain congressmen were or how communication was sabotaged to stop congressmen from calling for help.
>Using a property damage false equivalency when the other's objective was to overthrow of the government.
>Ignoring the fact that the terrorists stormed the capitol at precisely the moment when the incumbent’s loss was to be formally sealed, and they succeeded in stopping the count.
Maybe read the article instead of going into full damage control pretending the failed coup on 1/6 wasn't a coup. It was.

[Continued]...Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws
>They got states to change voting systems and laws
>They got states to change voting systems and laws
>They got states to change voting systems and laws
>They got states to change voting systems and laws
>They got states to change voting systems and laws

Actually it's been the case in the past where the normally armed terrorists show up to certain rallies unarmed.
>The Sideshow Bob defense
Yes, that's how coups tend to work.
By blocking the peaceful transfer of power, they are overthrowing the government, it was a coup.
It shows the coup would have been successful if the vote didn't resume. Good thing it did. So the coup failed.
I don't get why you're such a terrorist apologist and trying to pretend this wasn't a filed coup. Might have something to do with the fact you're a redditor based on your pointless spacing.

It was a coup no matter how much you want to stamp your tiny feet and say it wasn't.

>Shifting the goalpost this hard

>Implying all your damage control wasn't refuted

They were taking direct action to prevent the rightful winner of an election from coming to power, and instead propping up a dictator who did not win said election. It is a fucking coup.

The idea that they had no intention of committing violence is laughable. Not only did dozens show up in full body armor and tactical gear, several were armed, using military tactics like ranger file, and were fed the layout of the capitol ahead of time to know exactly where to go, there were men spotted with flex cuffs OBVIOUSLY intending to take hostages and/or execute congressmen, a fucking gallows was erected out front and the entire crowd was chanting HANG MIKE PENCE. A woman was killed attempting to breach a last line of defense. An officer was beaten to death with fire extinguishers by the seditionists, several were also maimed by the seditionists as well.

B-BUT THE COUP WAS INCOMPETENT! DRUNK BOOMERS TAKING SELFIES!

Get this through your fucking retard skull: THE COMPETENCY OF A COUP DOES NOT DECIDE WHETHER IT IS A COUP OR NOT. If I charged at you with a gun and fired the whole magazine, missed every shot, and even hit myself in the foot, it's embarrassing, but it is still a murder attempt.

You know what an embarrassing coup attempt was? Yukio Mishima. Guess what? We still call it a coup attempt.

Circular arguments and unfalsifiable conjecture do not count as refuting anything. All you did was shift the goalpost from defining "coup" as violent insurrection to defining it as anything that interferes with congress. By your own logic, literally anything that interferes with government in any way can now be called a coup. That is a retarded argument, and you should feel retarded for making it.

>THE COMPETENCY OF A COUP DOES NOT DECIDE WHETHER IT IS A COUP OR NOT.

When the "Coup" is so completely offkey that none of the alleged terrorists even brandished any weapons, yes it actually does reach a point where you have to question whether it was a coup or not. You don't even have evidence that what you claim they were trying to do was what they were trying to do.

>using military tactics like ranger file

This is such a fucking hilariously stupid strawgrasp it hurts.

>Samefagging
Refer to
>You know what an embarrassing coup attempt was? Yukio Mishima. Guess what? We still call it a coup attempt.

>Yukio Mishima

That's because he actually was trying to overthrow the Japanese constitution.

The boomers were not actually trying to force congress to instate Donald Trump. If you left your echo chamber for once and actually read what the conservatives in their own circles wrote, as opposed to being a fucking dumbass who just reads what left leaning pundits say about what conservatives wanted, you would already know this and there wouldn't even be a need for any argument. But of course, you aren't going to do that, because that would require you to not be such an intellectually lazy faggot who just believes whatever the establishment media tells you like the brainwashed fucking retarded sheep that you are.

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It was a riot. Ffs there’s always crazies. A lot of those people generally don’t give af they just got pissed off to that point. Shits calming down tho

>They weren't trying to stop the certification of the election
Into the trash the rest of your post goes since it's clearly entirely in bad faith.

They were not though.

Why were they chanting "Hang Mike Pence"? Could it be because he wasn't stopping the counting and certification of the electoral college votes like Trump was trying to pressure him into doing? It's almost like the mob of Trump supporters were trying to intimidate Pence and Congress into overturning the election results in Trump's favour...

>GOP shitbag calling people sheep and criticizing their news sources.
lulzy af

We really need to consider coming together on election integrity. If we cannot get our politicians to make it happen they need to be removed. But we need to come together on that first and now.

>It was a riot
And 9/11 was just an air traffic accident...
1/6 was a coup and terrorist attack against America.

If you're really in favor of election integrity, you'll be 100% in favor of punishing all those who spread the Big Lie, voted against certifying the eleciton or were co-conspirators in the coup.

Yes.
Are you 100% in favor of punishing the corporations and the politicians they paid off who altered state voting law to influence the 2020 election and have it proceed according to their business interests?

There was a pandemic you moron.

This, there is nothing wrong with absentee voting.
Unless you hate democracy.

No it wasn’t like 5 people died. It’s almost like people want to be that to relieve frustration by being angry at something. Chill my fellow citizen. If it was a coup more would have died.

No. I'm not in favor of that. What was done was legal. What are you gonna do? Cry because daddy Joe was able to use the court systems to his advantage? You didn't have any problems with it when the koch bros were funneling money into right wing politics did you? Or the NRA for that matter.
All of it was legal. All of it. And now you're mad that you lost. Legally. And rightfully. Because we, the majority party in this country, took back our country. And Dems are the majority party in this country.

They intentionally went there to stop the EC count. Literally the definition of a coup. Literally.

>I have absolutely no idea what Trumps supporters actually wanted, but I heard from leftwing news that they were there to force congress to give Trump a 2nd term so ooga booga

So is Dab Forums legit just a board full of brainwashed NPCs?

Biden becoming president was the competent way of carrying out a not coup, Jan 6 was just democracy that was labelled a coup by the people who carried out the coup. We will never know the truth, because the coup has already happened, and only the pigeons are left making noises.

If the US continues on this political trajectory, just going into a KFC store will be enough to get you branded as having ties to white terrorism, because Colonel Sanders is obviously a paramilitary figure in the eyes of the Left.

Pretty much. The actual thinking libs I talk to are divided on all of this shit, but the ones on Dab Forums are complete idiots. They're just going to keep milking this shit because they need the other side to be villains, they need to hate. It's fucked up.

Bank of America will happy to report all KFC purchases to the FBI. And the Left will applaud the corporate abuse.

>What was done was legal
Many of the changes to voting laws did not follow the legal process for changing those laws.

This is not correct as has been proven many times through many court cases.

"Corporate abuse" - then do something about it. Trump sure as fuck wasn't - he was making the fat cats fatter just as much as biden will.

No. I'm going by what you fucks said on Parler. My fucking god you act like these numbnuts didn't literally tell the world what they were trying to do.
This was a literal coup by definition. Literally. Stop acting like stupid children. Lol goddamn.

>What is context

Retard alert. Bwoop bwoop. Code red.

We know what the context was. A bunch of morons charging into the capitol building screaming "stop the steal!" And threatening to rope Pence.
"Context" lol

WOW! LEFT LEANING CHERRYPICKED EXPERTS AGREE WITH A LEFT LEANING OPTICS PLOY? WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED!?

Fucking stupid ass midwit lmao.

Holy shit you are an absolute twat.

Every single one of your points is subjective horseshit that you are intentionally exaggerating for the sake of optics. You are obviously not interested in the truth in any way and are just doing mental gymnastics to justify your blind and mindless belief in whatever leftoid MSM tells you.

People as stupid as you should not be allowed to breed.

I suspect a huge portion of them are paid shills. The amount of intentional logical fallacies committed by the left on Dab Forums are just too high. If we had a nickel for every appeal to authority spewed on this board we would be millionaires.

It is entirely correct. The Electors Clause of the Constitution requires that the election process within a state be decided by the state legislature. When Tom Wolf passed an executive order extending the deadline for mail-in voting he was circumventing the legislature.

Imagine being this much of a right wing retard

Yet strangely enough, a Supreme Court packed with ooga-booga knuckledragging conservative activist justices rammed in by Moscow Mitch and Drumphus the First, didn't agree with your assertion.

Get over it magat cultist you lost 60+ court cases. Take your AR-15 equipped with an illegal bump stock and shoot up a tree stump with a silhouette of Pelosi nailed to it to relieve your pent up sexual frustration since no woman will come within 10' of you.

>Dab Forumsppet term
The irony

They should get way the fuck worse than that. Laws on outright lying need to be tightened. The right needs FAR more scrutiny than they're getting right now. And before any of you scream about free speech or "1984", the right's lies are having a real damaging effect on people. Example: in 2009, breitbart launched a campaign to destroy ACORN, which was an advocacy group that helped poor and middle income people using heavily edited videos to suggest they were breaking the law. ACORN got all its funding instantly cut and it destroyed the organization. It was later revealed after an investigation they'd done nothing wrong and Breitbart just made it up, but by then the damage had been done. When you're using your free speech to destroy organizations that are just helping poor people through lies, I don't think you deserve it.

There really does need to be something done because obviously there are tens of millions who fall head over heels for deep fakes and conspiracy theories and are utterly incapable of performing 1 minute or 2 of research to evaluate the veracity. Maybe a requirement similar to a privacy policy disclaimer you have to view and accept prior to seeing the loony tunes content, only it directs you to a fact check site prior to viewing. It's obvious proactive measures need to be taken since we were just a hairs breath away from losing our Democracy and Constitution.

Too be fair, a lot of it is the media not being critical enough. They play this nicey nicey bullshit where they basically just let people like Trump spew whatever lies they want and don't challenge them strongly enough on it. Trump can go into a debate, tell a lie that is completely insane and doesn't even make sense, and the moderater will just just be like "sir, sir, please, sir" and he just steamroll over them through pivoting or doubling down and get away with it. They're afraid to actually offend them because if they did pointedly attack Trump on his lies, Trump wouldn't go on the show anymore and they'd lose viewers.

>>Dab Forumsppet
There is only one person in all of Dab Forums that uses that word. That person is a shcizo who inhabits Dab Forums and only Dab Forums.
>he probably calls what he does "activism"

>muh alternative facts!
t. Trump said nazis are "very fine people"
t. Trump said "inject bleach"
t. "30 000 lies!!!!"

>Only one
At least two, gaMedia has either a conservative bias, or pulls 'both sides' bullshit that always benefits conservatives.
The reason for this is either the conservatives own the media, or bullies everyone else into submission because they always play the victim and claim a phantom bias since reporting the truth is somehow liberal.

>Media has either a conservative bias, or pulls 'both sides' bullshit that always benefits conservatives.
Imagine being so far off the spectrum that you try to, unironically, argue that the media has a "conservative bias!"

All true by the way.

Pretty much. Even supposedly "left" media figures like Krystal Ball downplay the threat the far-right presents. She was on the Rising smugly saying the left told her Trump would lead an insurrection and that they're crazy, and then look what happened.

>All true by the way.
>Alternative facts are fine *when we do it*

50% chance you a samefagging

Trump literally said "there were very fine people on both sides" about a neo-nazi rally and a counter protest, which is implicity saying neo-nazis are very fine people. He also said inject hand sanitizer live on TV.

>doubling down on the alternative facts
Why would you do this?

Now now, he said inject hand sanitizer OR sunlight, he respects your free will

They were literally screaming stop the steal. How fucking ignorant do you have to be to completely fucking deny reality this deep. Seriously. People this fucking stupid should be lobotomized for the good of the world. Ignorance and bullshit have no place anymore in the world.
Go back to your basements with your tinfoil hats. No ones buying your shit here.

It does out in the vast wastelands of depopulated red States (which btw despite 8 of those States combined don't have the population of CA, each have the same political power with 2 Senators as CA) where the only radio broadcasts you can receive are extreme right wing AM stations.

Look everyone, we got a goddamn constitutional scholar here.
Oh wait no we don't because you idiots think education is useless. Not surprising since most of the time you mouth breathers can't even form coherent, logical, and grounded in facts arguments. Ffs.
If it's so illegal, do something about it. Sue your state. But you won't - a) because what you think was wrong has been proven not to be, and b) you know you're wrong.

>It does out in the vast wastelands of depopulated red States
[x] Cringe

> where the only radio broadcasts you can receive are extreme right wing AM stations.
[x] Not American

> and grounded in facts arguments.
[x] ESL

>Cringe
Prove then wrong. You can't. It's true. The first thing we need to do is get rid of the electoral college. Then y'all would be really fucked.

This bit you're doing all over the board is the real cringe here, user. Screaming cringe at people without engaging with ideas at all is, as you might say, not based.

They obviously can't back anything they say up. They want to claim that we spew alternative facts then do things like completely ignore the actual definitions of words.

Magats, this is coup: "a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government."

No one cares that you don't like it being called a coup. That doesn't mean it wasn't an attempted coup. Cope harder bitches. These people are the true cringe.

>Prove then wrong. You can't. It's true. The first thing we
>we
You're not American.

I am engaging with ideas in other threads. I am also simultaneously calling out ESL niggers for posting cringe.

It doesn't matter if I am or not, nor do I give two fucks what you think.

Prove my facts wrong. If you can't, then youre dismissed. You're an idiot of the highest order. You are exactly what you call us: brainless sheep. Go bleet somewhere else for trump, sheep. We ain't buying here. We love in the real world.

>210% mad
You're terrible at this.

>then do things like completely ignore the actual definitions of words.
Leftists are forever forbidden from accusing anyone of this, anything otherwise is eternal projection and cope.

>Can't refute arguments
>Can't back up anything I say with facts
Checks out

>denying that leftists have been subverting language and changing the definition of words to make their collective utopian gender fantasies a reality

You may continue to cope

Imagine unironically being this brainwashed.

everyone that supported Biden is literally a China backed traitor
1:36:04
rumble.com/vdloi7-absolute-proof-exposing-the-theft-of-america.....html

>projecting this hard.

You have to be so sick to think that there was any insurrection that day other than what Congress was doing inside the Capitol. That was the raping of America, now confirmed in Time magazine. Sad day for the Republic as they continue to rape minds selling the idea about the Capitol "riot" and "insurrection". Just because they succeeded in their coup after four years, no one should listen to these blithering ruffians pretending to be outraged and legitimate.

Ah. I see the problem here. You don't actually know what the definitions of words are and that's why you think they're being changed all the time. I can understand how this must have been confusing for you.

But the media who donated 4,500% more to the blue candidates than the red candidates (as per opensecrets) will never mention this unless if biden suddenly decides he won't return their favor

>But the media who donated 4,500% more to the blue candidates than the red candidates
Citation required. Also, who is "the media"? You do know that Fox News, OAN and Newsmaxx are some of the largest news organizations in the country right?

I love how you fucks say we're projecting. Projecting what, exactly?

We're not the ones who stormed the capitol and stole shit, smearing our fecal matter on the walls, only to then have the man who you all did that for call you all losers LOL

keep suckin that drumph dick. Maybe one day you'll get an orange cheeto out of it. Oh no wait, you need to tongue his anus for that one.

Look at this cope. What beautiful cope it is.

And? The media doesn't like you. What are you going to do, create laws that limit how much companies can spend on their political candidates? LOL

>4500%
Ah, I see by your understanding of how percentages work you're from a red State. Perhaps you would have responded like Miss Teen South Carolina when asked this question about American education

>Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the U.S. on a world map. Why do you think this is?"

>I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some, uh, people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future. For our children.[3][4]

What is it you think "the media" did wrong here? Please, explain. What laws did they break?

Imagine coping this over the facts.

I love making them mad bringing up how this is Republicans fault. LOL

>NWO propaganda
>Facts

>Be specific

And nothing in those responses are illegal, or even necessarily wrong. Putting tons of money into an election is a god given right and they can use that free speech however they want to, at least per republican standards.
Again - what did they do wrong? Be specific and tell me which laws they broke.

>thinks the media is NWO propaganda
You're on the wrong board.

> traitors
> wanting to see the results of a fair election rather than a rigged one

> Democrats
> Globalism; not Americanism
> not traitors

lol.

It boggles the mind how far you've bent over backwards to believe this bullshit.

>can't address the claim, can only attack the person making the claim

Meant to include

Its logically impossible to address conspiracy theories. They aren't based on any evidence and they constantly shift to accommodate for any lapse in information. What you're doing is like criticizing someone for being unable to teach a stump trigonometry.

ActualBased.

"BUT JUST LOOK AT ALL THESE SIGNED AFFADAVITS"

yes, the signed affidavits that say things like "Trump couldn't have lost. He has more followers than Biden" or "The poll workers were mean to me! That's fraud!"

And that's just in the MI case. LOL

It shows how conservatives must always be the victim. Even when they attempt a coup, it's not their fault.

it boggles MY mind to how far they've bent you FORWARD without you realizing it.

Since you didn't really point to anything specific that I said, I'll just assume you prefer globalism over nationalism. How sad. And further, the evidence for voter fraud was clear as day. You just probably weren't aware of any of it because you're brainwashed and only understand MSM.

Lindell's compilation of evidence includes hacking logs where china tampered with us elections.
rumble.com/vdloi7-absolute-proof-exposing-the-theft-of-america.....html

>hacking logs where China tampered with US elections

Where did he get said logs from? And how can we validate them?

>Since you didn't really point to anything specific that I said
Neither did you. You just vaguely gestured at conspiracy. That seems to be the extent of your talents.

>I'll just assume you prefer globalism over nationalism
I absolutely do. You do as well. Globalism is the only reason the U.S. is a world superpower. Capitalism is system that, by necessity, requires international cooperation.

>And further, the evidence for voter fraud was clear as day. You just probably weren't aware of any of it because you're brainwashed and only understand MSM.
Please, user. I can only laugh so hard.

Alright well, I mean... what else can I say besides like, enjoy being a faggot, I suppose?

That's about as compelling an argument as I expected. Good talk.

this is your brain on copium
files.catbox.moe/6od9o8.jpg

"cybersecurity experts" who gave detailed logs to Mary Fanning who is an intelligence researcher/reporter/author, samples of the logs are included in Lindell's vid. due to the nature of the data the ultimate source of the logs needed to be a cybersecurity election official, ISP insider, or a leak from the NSA or equivalent.
validation can be achieved by cross referencing the logs with other election logs and documented running tallies that had negative number irregularities (votes removed)
muckrack.com/mary-fanning/articles

>. due to the nature of the data the ultimate source of the logs needed to be a cybersecurity election official, ISP insider, or a leak from the NSA or equivalent.

So basically we can't verify these are even valid until they get in court.

Let's see 'em in court then! I'm ready.

Not even looking at your link. LOL

>Thinks that an industry proven to have a revolving-door relationship with a specific political party is legitimately interested in providing unfiltered truth.

And you my friend, have a double digit IQ.

Dems are a majority conservative party.

>it's a shoot the messenger argument
How dare they report on things you don't like!

>Let's see 'em in court then! I'm ready.
I think we all are, frendo.
A day in a non secret court proceeding would allow the public to make a more informed decision on the topic
Sadly, I just don't see that happening

>samples of the logs are included in Lindell's vid.
Could you provide a link? I'd like to look that over

>Doesn't know what revolving door means

lmao you're fucking retarded.

thats what the catholic church said about Sidereus Nuncius

Did Tom Wolf extend the voting deadline or did the state legislature? Only one of them has the authority to do so, and it isn't Wolf. There's no conspiracy theory here, he violated the law.

>Its logically impossible to address conspiracy theories.
i guess jeffery epstein just killed himself then

If only a court would actually address the evidence rather than dismiss the case immediately..

I don't understand how this is a coup. Are people trolling? This was just a bunch of dumb trump supporters going to far, not an organized attempt to overthrow the government

You're just butthurt you can use images to shitpost here redditor.

Got proof? If it was a violation I'm sure he was taken to court and the order was declared unconstitutional.
If that didn't happen, it was legal.

>Your mad you can't post images on an image board
>Redditor
Wtf are you taking about

>Playing stupid
As expected, what was it? A wojak? That's still the go to image for redditors these days since you fags couldn't think of anything original to save your right nut.

Your not very good at lying on the intetnet

Being on news means you must believe all msm without question?

What kind of idiot logic is this? Do you faggots here actually think like this?

Yes I'm sure corporate media conglomerates with multiple political donors are always telling you the truth. Good lord.

So I must be right. The fact you can't even engage is a tell. Very pathetic on your part.

>if we get away with it then its legal

With the amount of lawsuits aimed at this issue, yeah. This isn’t some rando shooting a deer out of season. If what you claim is true there would have been a lawsuit and it would have been successful.

>Its logically impossible to address conspiracy theories
Conspiracy theories themselves are acceptable just like any scientific theory. Scientifically, there's nothing inherently wrong in putting forward the theory that the earth is flat but when you cannot produce experimental or rigorous mathematical evidence to support it, you have to discard it.

The problem with rightwing conspiracy theorists stems from the fact these loonies don't treat them like theories, they treat them like proven facts even though no valid evidence exists to back them up - in fact quite the contrary. Then they really go off the deep end and begin manufacturing fraudulent evidence and by having it shouted and repeated over and over again think somehow that means it's been proven.

There was a lawsuit, Bognet v. Boockvar. Quotes form their rulings:
>although the voter plaintiffs had standing on their Equal Protection arbitrary-and-disparate treatment claim, and were likely to succeed on the merits (that the ballot deadline extension violates Equal Protection), the Purcell principle mandates that no injunction be awarded since there is less than two weeks before the election, and injunctive relief would result in significant voter confusion
>The Court did not decide “whether the Deadline Extension or the Presumption of Timeliness are proper exercises of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania’s lawmaking authority, delegated by the U.S. Constitution, to regulate federal elections. Nor [did it] evaluate the policy wisdom of those two features of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court’s ruling.”
The court didn't uphold the extension of the deadline as legal, instead they refused to strike it down for other reasons and dismissed it on the grounds that standing does not allow a suit over a generalized grievance. When courts refuse to rule on the constitutionality of something, you can't just tell people to stop questioning its constitutionality. It is valid to challenge the constitutionality of an act until it is proven to be constitutional or not, otherwise no challenges could ever be raised.

You're aware Gov. Wolf's executive order was for the June primary, not the general election?
governor.pa.gov/newsroom/gov-wolf-signs-executive-order-extending-mail-ballot-deadline-in-six-counties-to-june-9/

I had misattributed the November extension to an executive order, when it was actually a state Supreme Court decision from a request by Wolf's administration. The lawsuit is about that extension, one for mail-in ballots in the presidential election.

We get it, you hate democracy and the idea that everyone should have a fair chance to vote. I'm sure you're jerking off with delight over the massive voter suppression program Republicans have rolled out in retaliation.

If you have to resort to strawmen to dismiss the issue then it means you don't care about the truth of the issue. You don't care if there was fraud or even the opportunity for fraud to have occurred. You're not just against the legality of the election being challenged, you're against it being investigated at all. That "we won and we don't care how" attitude is what makes people suspicious of the election to begin with.

Your not very good at this

^This post is an excellent example of the "chang posting" I referenced here

Giving it a fair review in court would be legitimizing the great lie

>All this mad and blaming China
I'm not the one doing everything to keep people from voting and then demanding we turn into a dictatorship because the people didn't vote the way I wanted.

>and then demanding we turn into a dictatorship because the people didn't vote the way I wanted
Yes you literally are, you advocate putting people in camps for not voting Democrat

>In camps
The only ones setting up concentration camps and doing forced sterilizations are Trump and the Republicans.
Funny how they have the support of Neo-nazis given he called them very fine people.

>concentration camps
You mean "overflow facilities"? Biden is POTUS, get the narrative right comrade.

Like a sore thumb.

Nah, Trump concentration camps
Biden is already dismantling Trump's nazi-esq policies.
The proof is in how Stephen Miller, one Trump's chief architects of his cruel immigration policy is crying bloody murder.
newsweek.com/stephen-miller-joe-biden-immigration-plan-1563688

I wonder what you think about what lead to that deadline extension in the first place. It wasn't exactly out of the blue. I'm talking about Louis DeJoy illegally slowing down the mail. There's two lawsuits regarding that that are still going on.

He should be prosecuted according to the law. But one person breaking the law doesn't let others off for breaking it in response, and it definitely doesn't mean that the opportunity to commit fraud by extending the deadline isn't something that should be investigated. If they said "we had to violate the law in order to have the election" that would be one thing, but saying "and this violation cannot be investigated or brought to court" is another thing altogether. I wanted a good clean fair election, but what we got is a mess of problematic issues that the winners refuse to acknowledge. The people saying there was no fraud don't actually know if there was fraud or not, because they aren't going to check, and the assumption that election fraud can't happen ignores the irregularities and election forensics issues like Benford's law. The explanations given for the irregularities are ad hoc justifications without any actual investigation into the facts.

>But one person breaking the law doesn't let others off for breaking it in response, and it definitely doesn't mean that the opportunity to commit fraud by extending the deadline isn't something that should be investigated.
Sure.
>If they said "we had to violate the law in order to have the election" that would be one thing, but saying "and this violation cannot be investigated or brought to court" is another thing altogether.
Sure.
>I wanted a good clean fair election
Donald Trump didn't. That's pretty clear. Makes it hard to be sympathetic.

Pretty sure the new "patriot act 2.0" is starting to prove that the deep state "theory"

>forced sterilizations
That one account of ovaries getting removed from a immigrant rights org known for "leaks"

You sound like a califag that's gonna move guaranteed. Since controlling immigration is considered "nazi" to you. Question how much ADL cum do you swallow?

>keep suckin that drumph dick. Maybe one day you'll get an orange cheeto out of it. Oh no wait, you need to tongue his anus for that one

Very descriptive user.
You must have that image seared in your mind

>Stephen Miller, one Trump's chief architects of his cruel immigration policy is crying bloody murder.
And ironically, he's 1st generation spawned of jewish immigrant refugees. Think about that for just 5 seconds. If that were you, do you think you could look yourself in the mirror knowing you intentionally tortured Hispanic mothers and children, shoving an iron soled boot in their face while knowing full well your parents were precisely the same as them? Why? Because in some fever dream he conceives of his jewish race as being white, while the Hispanics are "mud people" (their words, not mine). The lack of empathy of the GOP rightwing is beyond belief.

He's a conservative, no matter what you are, it will twist you into an evil creature.

>Just ignoring the facts.
Still concentration camps that Trump created and maintained.

That's exactly what this is about. If Trump is found not guilty, it sets the precedent that a president in the final month of office can commit any crime they want because they can't get impeached.

theintercept.com/2021/01/11/capitol-plot-andy-biggs-paul-gosar/

>office can commit any crime they want because they can't get impeached.
there was nothing stopping Congress from impeaching him prior to January 20.

Everyone knows this is about 2024 and until you come up with a better argument, each day more and more people come around to our side of thinking on this issue.

We aren't talking about Trump, we're talking about changes to election laws made outside the established process.

It's the precedent Republicans are set in their blind obedience to Trump.

What?

The permanent class fixed the election to get the outcome we want and we should be mad at a world of Warcraft raid at the capital?

You’re such a drone

A world of warcraft raid where hundreds of police officers were injured against a mob of people chanting "Hang Mike Pence" and trying to locate the senators to enact the threats they were chanting.

>the permanent class
Which is funny because just a night prior to the election certification Pence was /ourguy/ who is based and electeocutes homos, then immediatly after that suddenly he was always some deepstate traitor, it couldnt possibly be that even Trumps on stooge and SCOTUS failed to find substantial evidence of election fraud to swing the vote, it MUST be that Pence deceived you all for the last 5 years!

>Pence was /ourguy/ who is based and electeocutes homos, then immediatly after that suddenly he was always some deepstate traitor, it couldnt possibly be that even Trumps on stooge and SCOTUS failed to find substantial evidence of election fraud to swing the vote, it MUST be that Pence deceived you all for the last 5 years!
Who are you quoting?

He was impeached on 1/13. The trial was scheduled for after 1/20 by Moscow Mitch.

Oth, Dems should say, OK we accept the trial can't be held after he left office so we'll just turn it over to the US AG and DOJ to prosecute with a jury instead of 44 spineless, quivering and quaking Republican Senators in absolute terror of the Orange Slime. You would have the glorious spectacle of the Republicans' heads exploding as they scream b-but you can't, you can't! H-he was *gulp* president! You can only impeac...uh, wait, uh...

>world of warcraft
Is this the latest damage control for Trump's fail coup?

Who said this?

Idk man I looked at pictures from the capital wow raid and then looked at pictures from Jan 20ths inauguration, heck you can look at the capital right now, and one looks more like a coup then the other

To believe it was a coup, you must ignore the fact that they stole shoes, wore viking costumes, and generally clowned around. Insurrectionists don't throw back a few cold ones, snap selfies, and cosplay while overthrowing a government.
>but muh police officer
Worse things have happened in sports riots, people are animals but that doesn't make them terrorists. The capitol riot was an outburst by people who felt their voices were not being heard, not a conspiracy to seize power over the USA.

No, no, no, you've got it all wrong pal, "experts" arguing in bad faith are correct that this is a coup because...uh...there were some ex-soldiers, and...uh...there was disorganized violence

The only coup happened on 1/6, because you had a bunch of terrorists incited by Trump attack the United States Capitol with the intention of overthrowing the government and murdering people.
This is where you sea lion or just keep forcing your newfound buzzword.

>Ignore the pipe bombs and zipties. Terrorists are harmless so long as they wear funny hats!

The cope grows more delusional by the day.

>a few loons go overboard
>this means you're all guilty of what they did!
Hello Bank of America, did you remember to report everyone who bought a sandwich in DC on the sixth? Remember that being present as a location while people commit crimes means you are guilty of those crimes even if you didn't know or condone those crimes.

>Eric Munchel, a pro-Trump rioter who stormed the Capitol building while holding plastic handcuffs, took the restraints from a table inside the Capitol building, prosecutors said in a court filing Wednesday.
Wow, sure sounds like a lot of pre-planning went into that

>thousands of people storm the capital, plant pipe bombs, murder a cop, bring zipties and nooses and try to break into the offices of politicians while chanting about lynching them
>far-right dipshits run damage control with takes like "oh it was just a few loons gone overboard"

Cope. Seeth. Sleep. Repeat.

It was mostly peaceful

So were the BLM protests. Doesn't mean the rioting didn't happen.

>that none of the alleged terrorists even brandished any weapons

god I wish Dab Forums let me post pictures so I could prove you wrong with MS paint's circle function

It's still a coup regardless of how competently it's done.
Keep in mind they were looking to assassinate officials, but they were kept from them.

>12 schizos is a coup
Wrong.

They've not yet realized its over: Once we grant statehood to Puerto Rico and DC, we're NEVER sharing power with republicans ever again. We will be able to keep majorities in both houses of congress forever!! Can't wait till we get the green light to start rounding them all up. very soon...

Quality is dropping chang. Step it up.

>800+ terrorists that were deployed to attack the capitol by Trump isn't a coup
Wrong.

It doesn't matter whether the entire crowd or "a few loons" were part of it, it's a coup either way. There was a coup attempt on January 6th perpetrated by Trump supporters, and that is fact.

>800 people attacked the capital

Do you deny that it was a mostly peaceful protest?

>14,000 people burned buildings to the ground and were arrested across the US with 10x more watching
>PEACEFUL
Man these small number of assholes on Jan 6 really grind my gears
I mean you can't just take Nancy's lecturnerino like that

14000 people did the same thing, only, everywhere in the fucking nation
They are all dipshits

I believe whether it was mostly peaceful or not is irrelevant to the fact that it was a coup attempt. There were people present with the goal of killing or otherwise harming the legislators and preventing the certification of Biden's victory. Whether it was 1% of the crowd or 100% of it, there was a coup attempt.

But the crowd was mostly peaceful. The event was mostly peaceful.

Would you hold 99 people accountable for the actions of one? The peaceful protestors did not engage in a coup attempt.

>Would you hold 99 people accountable for the actions of one
Absolutely.
That's called: Democracy©©℗, friendo

What's with this shill lying about Trump's violent coup attempt being peaceful? It only got 6 people killed and tried to overthrow the government.

Didn’t Puerto Rico itself vote against statehood?

>overthrow the government
By a crowd of people that are historically Pro 2nd amendment but has no guns?

Did you miss all the guns they smuggled in?

>No guns
Where do you nuts get these idea from?
Dozens of guns were seized by police, easily hundreds more were visible on the tapes. Groups of rioters in the capitol at multiple points can be heard shouting on the tapes
>Don't worry, we're unarmed!
Which don't get me wrong is good, but indicates that everyone there was aware that there were group of rioters running around who were indeed armed and looking to boogaloo.
That's setting aside the explosives and handheld blunt and sharp weapons, which are arguably actually more dangerous, and certainly were more lethal on that day.

Why is admitting the basic facts that happened so hard for you all? It's difficult to take you seriously on any other subject when you're getting basic details that everyone else agrees on wrong in serious ways