>nypost.com
Weird how chang hasn't posted this to the board yet. Guess it is because ht can't put tRump in the headline
Cuomo aide admits they hid nursing home data so feds wouldn’t find out
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>Governor Cuomo’s top aide privately apologized to Democratic lawmakers for withholding the state’s nursing-home death toll from COVID-19 — telling them “we froze” out of fear the true numbers would “be used against us” by federal prosecutors, The Post has learned.
>The stunning admission of a cover-up was made by Secretary to the Governor Melissa DeRosa during a video conference call with state Democratic leaders in which she said the Cuomo administration had rebuffed a legislative request for the tally in August because “right around the same time, [then-President Donald Trump] turns this into a giant political football,” according to an audio recording of the two-hour-plus meeting.
>“He starts tweeting that we killed everyone in nursing homes,” DeRosa said. “He starts going after [New Jersey Gov. Phil] Murphy, starts going after [California Gov. Gavin] Newsom, starts going after [Michigan Gov.] Gretchen Whitmer.”
>In addition to attacking Cuomo’s fellow Democratic governors, DeRosa said, Trump “directs the Department of Justice to do an investigation into us.”
>“And basically, we froze,” she told the lawmakers on the call.
>“Because then we were in a position where we weren’t sure if what we were going to give to the Department of Justice, or what we give to you guys, what we start saying, was going to be used against us while we weren’t sure if there was going to be an investigation.”
>DeRosa added: “That played a very large role into this.”
>After dropping the bombshell, DeRosa asked for “a little bit of appreciation of the context” and offered what appears to be the Cuomo administration’s first apology for its handling of nursing homes amid the pandemic.
>But instead of a mea culpa to the grieving family members of more than 13,000 dead seniors or the critics who say the Health Department spread COVID-19 in the care facilities with a March 25 state Health Department directive that nursing homes admit infected patients, DeRosa tried to make amends with the fellow Democrats for the political inconvenience it caused them.
>SEE ALSO
>COVID-19 deaths in NY nursing homes were 50 percent higher than claimed: probe
“So we do apologize,” she said. “I do understand the position that you were put in. I know that it is not fair. It was not our intention to put you in that political position with the Republicans.”
>Assembly Health Committee Chairman Richard Gottfried (D-Manhattan) immediately rejected DeRosa’s expression of remorse, according to the recording.
>“I don’t have enough time today to explain all the reasons why I don’t give that any credit at all,” said Gottfried, one of the lawmakers who demanded the death-toll data in August.
>State Senate Aging Committee Chairwoman Rachel May (D-Syracuse) — who was battered during her re-election bid last year over the issue of nursing-home deaths — also ripped into DeRosa, saying her former opponent had launched another broadside earlier in the day.
>“And the issue for me, the biggest issue of all is feeling like I needed to defend — or at least not attack — an administration that was appearing to be covering something up,” she said.
>“And in a, in a pandemic, when you want the public to trust the public-health officials, and there is this clear feeling that they’re not coming, being forthcoming with you, that is really hard and it remains difficult.”
>Melissa DeRosa privately apologized to Democratic lawmakers for withholding the state’s nursing-home death toll from COVID-19.
>Lev Radin/Pacific Press/Shutterstock
Assemblyman Ron Kim (D-Queens), who took part in the call, told The Post on Thursday that DeRosa’s remarks sounded “like they admitted that they were trying to dodge having any incriminating evidence that might put the administration or the [Health Department] in further trouble with the Department of Justice.”
>“That’s how I understand their reasoning of why they were unable to share, in real time, the data,” Kim said.
>“They had to first make sure that the state was protected against federal investigation.”
>Kim, whose uncle is presumed to have died of COVID-19 in a nursing home in April, also said he wasn’t satisfied with DeRosa’s apology.
>“It’s not enough how contrite they are with us,” he said. “They need to show that to the public and the families — and they haven’t done that.”
>In addition to stonewalling lawmakers on the the total number of nursing home residents killed by COVID-19, Cuomo’s administration also refused requests from the news media — including The Post — and fought a Freedom of Information lawsuit filed by the Empire Center on Public Policy.
>Instead, it only disclosed data on the numbers of residents who died in their nursing homes.
>But after Attorney General Letitia James last month released a damning report that estimated the deaths of nursing-home residents in hospitals would boost the grim tally by more than 50 percent, Health Commissioner Howard Zucker finally released figures showing the combined total was 12,743 as of Jan. 19.
>Just a day earlier, the DOH was only publicly acknowledging 8,711 deaths in nursing homes.
>In a Wednesday letter to lawmakers, Zucker said the total number of nursing home residents killed by COVID-19 had increased to 13,297 That number jumps to 15,049 when assisted living/adult care facilities are factored in.
>The controversy generated by James’ report led to an infamous news conference at which Cuomo callously dismissed the matter of where nursing home fatalities actually took place.
>“Who cares [if they] died in the hospital, died in a nursing home? They died,” he said.
>During Wednesday’s conference call, DeRosa said it appeared the DOJ was no longer focused on New York’s nursing home deaths.
>“All signs point to they are not looking at this, they’ve dropped it,” she said.
>“They never formally opened an investigation. They sent a letter asking a number of questions and then we satisfied those questions and it appears that they’re gone.”
>In a prepared statement, Cuomo spokesman Rich Azzopardi said, “We explained that the Trump administration was in the midst of a politically motivated effort to blame democratic states for COVID deaths and that we were cooperating with Federal document productions and that was the priority and now that it is over we can address the state legislature.”
>“That said, we were working simultaneously to complete the audit of information they were asking for,” he added.
>The DOJ declined to comment.
>democratic governors go out of their way to murder people and blame it on trump
The only news outlets reporting on this are the ones known for publishing false and misleading information
We must not underestimate the low intelligence of Americans, where 60% of adults believe in Creationism (pseudoscience) rather than evolution theory. Trump is just a symbol of arrogant, selfish, and poorly foresighted Americans.
His supporters, who are easily deceived by conspiracy theories and fake, are victims of inadequate low-level education.
What they need is not punishment, exclusion, criticism or neglect, i.e., hatred, but media/science literacy, logical thinking, problem-solving ability, treatment of delusional personality disorder by psychotherapy/counseling, i.e., love.
Thanks to political amateur Trump administration, the USA had been ridiculed from all over the world, and its international credibility, leadership, and persuasiveness have been lost. Now is the time to make America great again.
"Emotions Self-Responsibility Theory"
There is the chang cope.
>completely unrelated copypasta about putting half the country in "reeducation" camps
The primary source the Post links to seems to concur with the claims, and is from the NY government itself.
>d-don't worry,d-damage c-control c-comin' thru!
What's the problem with this? Why is it supposedly bad?
>Democrat governors ordered coofers to be placed in the nursing homes in an effort to murder as many people as they could and blame trump (highest death rates were with the old and preexisting conditions).
> Trump threatened to take legal action and bring these governors to justice for murder.
>Dems hide evidence of how many died in nursing homes/due to their actions as to try to avoid going to jail.
> Admit to law makers the whole thing was a coverup because the governor didnt want to get in trouble and the lawmakers were pissed because their constituents and opponents were hammering them about the governor literally murdering thousands
>say that now biden is in charge they dont fear procicution for politically motivated murder
Places like NYC and NJ have the highest death rates becahas dems were intentionally murdering the olds and then trying to cover it up.
Today is a great reminder that all the Democrat leaders a year ago were telling us not to fear the silly little virus and come out to all the Chinese New Year's Day parades.
NY and NJ don't have the highest death rates. California, Texas and Florida do.
No they were not.
Quit lying on the internet chang. Since January 2020, the cdc says the 2 highest regions for covid deaths per 100k are nyc with 333 and NJ with 250. Florida and texas are 26 and 27. California is like 34.
covid.cdc.gov
DeBlasio and Pelosi were literally telling people to go to china town in nyc and sf up until the lockdowns started.
You know you can actually look at google to see COVID deaths per state?
It's you who is lying. The first chart Google shows you when you type in Coronavirus deaths per state proves you wrong.
Those articles are about discrimination against Chinese-Americans after Trump started calling it the "China virus".
It's like you think the virus started in Chinatown somehow.
Which is exactly what I did, which is why I know how wrong you are.
>It's you who is lying. The first chart Google shows you when you type in Coronavirus deaths per state proves you wrong.
Then post the link, lying chang. Because I posted find cdc stats and they say the opposite of what you said, lying chang.
>It's like you think the virus started in Chinatown somehow.
It started in china and going to large gatherings with the people who would have been most likely to have traveled to china doesn't seem like a great idea when right after you say we need to ban all large gatherings (unless they are for blm or biden).
Here is the first chart if you google that. Notice New York and New Jersey as one and two
google.com
The link is google.com. Just go there and type "Coronavirus deaths per state". Are you that retarded?
>lying Chang
It's really hilarious that you think I'm Chinese just for debunking your horrible damage control.
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"If you are staying away, you are missing out!" isn't an invitation from an NYC councilman to come out and get sick?
What don't you understand about how Asian-Americans were being discriminated against because of Trump's insistence on calling it The China Virus?
>The link is google.com. Just go there and type "Coronavirus deaths per state". Are you that retarded?
Wow he can't provide a link because he is lying.
>It's really hilarious that you think I'm Chinese just for debunking your horrible damage control.
You didnt debunk anything chang, cdc data shows nyc and NJ as the top states per 100k
>files.catbox.moe
And there it is. Chang is so fucking stupid he used total deaths instead of death rates to try to hide the data by showing more people died in the 3 states with the 3 biggest pops (because dems count nyc and NY state as different regions to make the list look better)
You do know what rate means right, lying chang?
covid.cdc.gov
>virus comes from china
>be offended it gets called china virus
>dont know what the word "rate" means
Chang, are you really this dumb ?
Don't you think there were more sensible ways to show solidarity and support than to crowd together in a parade?
He could be a NYer, Cuomo called it the European Virus
Oops, looks like a couple retarded red States, one of them, SD led by a literal magat cult zombie (just look at her eyes) who wanted to put Drumphus the First orange head on Mt. Rushmore now have the highest death rates and case numbers as of 3 days ago. Go figure. Pardon me while I whack off to another magat cultists' false narrative getting BTFO and their heads spin in circles like Linda Blair in "The Exorcist."
>At least 1 in 9 South Dakotans and 1 in 7 North Dakotans have tested positive — twice as many cases per capita as in New York. Carson said the real number is likely to be double that.
So does this mean we can prosecute Trump from criminal negligence and hiding the numbers?
>per capita
Lmao, more like per-cope-ita
New York as almost 10x deaths than ND and SD combined. We're talking 3,000 Dakotan deaths vs close to 30,000 NY deaths. No amount of bad-faith per-capita arguments can cover that up.
> Carson said the real number is likely to be double that.
Amazing how they've been saying that all along about Covid nationally, and the only proof of such disaster scenario was a criminal conspiracy by the NY state Dems and Cuomo.
Look its chang moving the goal posts. NYC and NJ are both listed by the cdc as leading the nation in covid deaths per 100k because cuomo and murphy personally arranged for coofers to be sent to old people homes to try to kill as many people as possible for political reasons. Cope, chang
covid.cdc.gov
Cuomo the murderer
So Dakotas both has less death per infection, does NY have terrible hospitals or something?
>does NY have terrible hospitals or something?
Lots of nursing homes, lots of old people who were barely alive beforehand.
NY knows it can't pay for all of these old people forever, so why not kill a few ten thousand off?
More likely to vote Republican as well. Remind me what do the 5 governors who shoved COVID sick patients into nursing homes have in common?
I'm going to select choice D here.
DeRosa will get charged and Cuomo will walk away.
This is the same guy that closed a corruption panel once it started looking in his direction (Moreland commission). No charges for that either. Career political family.
The leftist elite in the Democratic party are utterly evil. When will the leftist sheep wake up? Never? How much evidence does it require to break their conditioning?
and named a bitch after himself and prematurely opened it to get publicity right before a primary even though it wasn't completed.
>name bridge after daddy who was also governor
>Stop corruption probe once it starts looking into governor's office
>Order nursing homes to take Covid positive patients
>Lie about it
>Write a book about leadership during the pandemic while the pandemic is still going on
If he just owned the mistake of forcing the nursing homes to take the patients this wouldn't have been a big deal. But it's Cuomo so he has to act like he's perfect and everyone else is retarded for implying he's not.
I’ve grown to just accept it as how it is in NY.
Sooner or later I’m going to move out, I’m not the only one. I pay 9.5k/yr in property taxes here, what do I get that I don’t get elsewhere?
Literally just Trump but a Democrat. Even their upbringing; Trump born to wealthy family, Cuomo born to political family..
Your "evidence" is usually tinfoil bullshit.
I never thought of that, but that's exactly it.
Just look at Cuomo's history and tell me what a great guy he is.
>“He starts tweeting that we killed everyone in nursing homes,” DeRosa said. “He starts going after [New Jersey Gov. Phil] Murphy, starts going after [California Gov. Gavin] Newsom, starts going after [Michigan Gov.] Gretchen Whitmer.”
Rare case of Trump not being wrong
wait bridge, not bitch
it was named after himself
Literally look at the article in OP, you retard
Not that it's any better, but it's named after Don Mario.
Cuomo is a great guy.
As has already been pointed out ITT, the only sources reporting on this are sources which are well known for making shit up, such as the NY Post.
seeCHANG BTFO
Neither of those articles says anything like what the NYpost article does.
>In a leaked conversation, the governor’s top aide admitted that data was withheld on nursing homes, where more than 10,000 New Yorkers have died during the pandemic.
>Amid the swirling controversy over whether New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's administration knowingly undercounted deaths among nursing home residents during the height of the Covid-19 pandemic in the state, a top aide for the governor apologized to Democratic lawmakers, saying the administration "froze" when initially asked by state legislators back in August about the issue.
>Which is a stunning admission. And seems to jibe with a report released last month by New York Attorney General Letitia James that suggested that Cuomo's administration undercounted deaths among nursing home residents by as much as 50%.
QUIT LYING CHANG
You say this every time you lose an argument.
I'm not lying and who the heck is Chang? The articles don't say anything about purposely hiding anything like the NYpost alleges.
>admitted that data was withheld on nursing homes
>admitted that data was withheld
>data was withheld
>According to a source who participated in the call, "DeRosa said the administration essentially 'froze' because it wasn't sure what information it was going to turn over to the DOJ, and didn't want whatever was told the lawmakers in response to the state joint committee hearing inquiries to be used against it in any way."
>And that is a very different animal. Because the latter explanation suggests that the reason the Cuomo administration didn't release the full details of deaths in nursing homes to state legislators is because they were concerned about how that data might be used against them, politically speaking, if it fell into the hands of the Trump administration.
>Which is a very bad look -- to say the least.
QUIT LYING CHANG, YOU GOT BTFO
It's time to retire and get a Chinese shill that has better understanding of English
>murders thousands of elderly
>At minimum, there is blood on their hands
>Democrats lying to Democrats
>Business as usual in the US
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BLOOD ON HIS HANDS. CUOMO SHOULD RESIGN EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY
That isn't the same as purposely hiding it. Nobody knew the data existed.
Who the fuck is Chang?
I'm from Texas and you're a bad arguer.
Dab Forums is an English only imageboard.
>you're a bad arguer
But it's ok for you to blatantly lie?
It explicitly states in the article they hid the data to avoid federal prosecution, Chang.
>I'm from Texas
Then buy a gun and commit sudoku or Harry Caray with it you chinese communist, fag
Yes, the NYPost article explicitly states that, and only the NYpost article. The other three articles say the data wasn't included in the tabulation of death rate figures because they didn't know about it. As is typical, the NYpost literally made up the nefarious motives so they could fling shit at Cuomo, which is practically the only reason that paper still exists and Murdoch hasn't folded the operation yet.
You keep saying I'm lying while in fact I've proved you wrong at least twice so far. But by all means keep projecting how BTFO you got on to me as though it covers for your lack of argument. I know it must be very frustrating for you.
>The other three damage control articles say the data wasn't included in the tabulation of death rate figures because they didn't know about it.
FTFY
The NYpost article is the damage control.
And seems to jibe with a report released last month by New York Attorney General Letitia James that suggested that Cuomo's administration undercounted deaths among nursing home residents by as much as 50%.
"Preliminary data obtained by [the Office of the Attorney general] suggests that many nursing home residents died from Covid-19 in hospitals after being transferred from their nursing homes, which is not reflected in [the Department of Heath's] published total nursing home death data," read the summary of the report.
Because the latter explanation suggests that the reason the Cuomo administration didn't release the full details of deaths in nursing homes to state legislators is because they were concerned about how that data might be used against them, politically speaking, if it fell into the hands of the Trump administration.
Which is a very bad look -- to say the least.
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Andrew needs to make another graphic and Write another book showing how he fucked up
Chris needs to get Andy on his show again and play hardball this time.
Nobody buys this GINNING this up into a HUGE conspiracy when the Repuklican Trumpsters had nothing to say about all dat Shit that went down in Florida with their misrepresenting covid deaths statewide. You don't get to play all concerned and bothered ONLY when it's your opposition you are trying to smear.
>No you
I don't remember DeSantis forcing covid positive patients into nursing homes, please sauce me if I'm wrong.
This. Trump was criminally negligent in his response to the pandemic by pretending it was a hoax, saying it was just like the common cold, holding massive super spreader events w/o masks or social distancing, encouraging an armed takeover of the MI Capitol and the kidnapping of Gov. Whitmer to protest her CDC RECOMMENDED SAFETY PROTOCOLS, etc. when he admitted on tape in early Mar that it was 10X deadlier and more contagious than the flu. He is solely and criminally liable for hundreds of thousands extra deaths of Americans.
Spare me your faux outrage at Cuomo, magats, it makes me puke.
Cuomo could have saved New York and rubbed it in Trump's face, instead he made it worse
>Whataboutism the post
Trump and De Santis doing retarded things is not an excuse for Cuomo to do whatever he wants. Covid has been enough of a shit show that no one would have blamed emperor Cuomo early on for trying to free up hospital beds. Unfortunately Cuomo's ego won't let him leave this stain on his record so he's trying to sweep it under the rug. It really doesn't matter because he has a D next to his name so new yorkers will keep voting for him.
Arrest cuomo
It's ok to want Trump and Cuomo to be cellmates for their fuckups
inb4 cuomo's nipple rings were a gift from trump when they shagged at bohemian grove
Are you speaking from a criminal justice standpoint, a political standpoint, or a gay porn standpoint?
Why not all of the above?
Frankly just throw all of congress in there period.
Fuck Cuomo and fuck the democuck neo communist elite. I never listen to leftist MSM anymore. Everything is lies and hypocrisy with them.all they do is point the finger at others for the crimes they are committing themselves
And here we go again...
msn.com
>New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Monday offered a rare note of regret as he defended his administration's decision to delay releasing data on Covid-19 deaths in long-term care facilities.
In a news conference Monday, Cuomo said that the Department of Health had "paused" state lawmakers' request for the Covid-19 death data because his administration chose to focus on a related inquiry from the Department of Justice. Both chambers of the state Legislature were told about this at the time, he said.
>its turns out the latest shitbag that libs were slobbing off for the last year is a retard
What a twist! Where have I seen this one before?
and that Fauci and his group lied to the public about the importance of ANY type of mask in order to save the good masks for healthcare workers and elites.
>Chris needs to get Andy on his show again and play hardball this time.
CNN isn't pressing him
Jake Tapper asked politely. but no dice.
Fredo is too fraido to ask him on again after the bs in the spring when he had him on
>rare note of regret
Lmao, the only regret in that presser was the regret that he got caught. It was a total softball event and the local media in NY is finally turning on him.
Cuomo bad, tRump worse, fuckface human maggot
Access to good bagels is about it
>I’ve grown to just accept it as how it is in NY.
>Sooner or later I’m going to move out, I’m not the only one. I pay 9.5k/yr in property taxes here, what do I get that I don’t get elsewhere?
A homeless population of nearly 100k.
hero to zero to goat
>Fredo is too fraido to ask him on again
lol
>New York as almost 10x deaths than ND and SD combined. We're talking 3,000 Dakotan deaths vs close to 30,000 NY deaths. No amount of bad-faith per-capita arguments can cover that up.
NY state pop. 19.45 million (2019)
ND pop 762,062 (2019) +
SD pop 884,659 (2019) = 1,646,721
NY has 15 x the pop
You bad faith bad math moron
HAHAHA...heee
fucking google it sfb
And in NY state, more densely populated.
Looks like another HS dropout conservatard who thinks "wook at me, ise nos how to use the internets, ise smart!"...duh-o.
And yet both SD and ND whose entire population is even smaller than a small midwest city like KC, each have 2 Senators just like NY. What a crock of Crap in Cap feces.
Lies
Incorrect
You're willfully ignorant
Wait...lying matters now?
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Up to Tuesday, February 16, 2021
Chart at link below is adjusted for deaths for deaths /per million population
or you can click on above worldometers link and then click on the deaths /per million pop.
It stands to reason that the states with the biggest cities and most densely populated areas have the greatest deaths per million of population
>NY needing to kill off republicans
lol
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>“Who cares [if they] died in the hospital, died in a nursing home? They died,” he said.
I care if you caused their death and tried to hide it.
Guy rivals tRump for being a psycho asshole.
cuomo like the weezer guy ?????????
cnn.com
It just gets worse and worse. Now he's threatening lawmakers.