Republicans declare treason is constitutional by acquitting the Traitor Trump for his failed coup

>On February 12, Clinton was acquitted on both counts as neither received the necessary two-thirds majority vote of the senators present for conviction and removal from office—in this instance 67.

Nixon was never impeached nor had a trial because he resigned simply from the threat of it.

Totally anecdotal but C-SPAN seemed to have more republican and/or conservative callers blaming Trump for the events of Jan. 6.
Perhaps the G.O.P. will die out but not anytime soon.

nice bait.

Is anyone listening to McConnells closing statements? He is literally saying that Trump is guilty ten minutes after voting not guilty.

How can republicans look at themselves in the mirror.

People thought he'd actually be punished? When the fuck will you realize that the wealthy are never called into account unless they're judged in a court of the poor.

2 SCOOPS
2 ACQUITTALS

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He’s basically claiming the statute of limitations expired

The reason why the senate did not have time to do this is because the then Majority leader did not want to reconvene the senate..

I also seem to remember the House delaying charges of impeachment for a week.

Why? there was no non-political reason to do this.

>have majority in both house and senate
>have executive branch
>still allow the minority of Republicans in the Senate to bend you over and fuck over your plans anytime they wish

Lmao, the DNC is the most incompetent & ineffective do-nothing party ever devised. I look forward to two years of nothing getting done before you lose the Senate in the midterms. At least then you can go back to blaming the GOP for everything like you did from 2010-2016. Right now you gotta eat the whole L by yourself.

>Democrats had a chance to split the GOP forever by calling witnesses and putting the screws to Senators weighing acquittal
>they pussies out
They deserve every bad thing that happens to them

Love it. Dems get embarrassed yet again. Thanks for wasting all that time when Americans need COVID relief funds

>Why? there was no non-political reason to do this.
The same could be said about the trial or the entire impeachment in the first place, but some people on this board still can't let go of their cable TV news narratives

At least the criminal trial against Trump is a slam dunk.
Unless Biden commits political suicide and doesn't prosecute Trump and everyone else involved in the couo.

>I also seem to remember the House delaying charges of impeachment for a week.
You mean when McConnell blocked the trial and later Trump said he needed time to prepare?

>supports Trump's election fraud claims
>changes his mind
>shuts down $2000 checks just before a decisive runoff
>denounces Trump after the riot
>votes the trial is unconstitutional
>then votes to acquit
>all while saying Trump is guilty
This all feels like classic McConnell 4D chess to me.

>there is no-non political reason to punish a former elected official for sedition against the US government

I don't get this argument. You said that Covid was just a hoax (while also claiming it was a Democratic/Chinese bioweapon), and then did nothing for months about it, even resisting efforts to manage it, but now that we are doing shit, it's not enough.

It is a hoax but the democrats are not doing enough, especially with this distraction. Anything they do do is a violation of my freedoms.

I fucking love this. I can hear you clawing at your eyeballs, bunkercuck.
Hey maybe next time have a case more substantial than "the people who were let into the capital by police were told to do that over twitter even though he never actually told them to do that."

>I TOLD YOU
I told you lefties weeks ago you dont have the fucking votes.

Biden is going after Trump. There’s at least three states ready to nail him, Biden’s leaving it to them

This trial has damaged his reputation among average Republicans even with an acquittal.

>If a liberal staged a violent coup, you'd know the democrats would vote to convict. But at this point, that's a sign of weakness.
Take your meds. The democratic mayors and prosecutors dropped charges on blmtifa for assault on police, arson, looting, etc. Vote to convict? Seriously they wouldn’t even charge. One has to come before the other

isn’t going after*

Of course not. They're outright denying people the 2000 dollars checks they illegally advertised would be the outcome of them getting elected, a complete rollout of the vaccine, and peace in the middle east that they started disassembling the moment they entered the white house.

But naw let's complain about orange man some more, that distracts the fact that we're outright fucking our own voters over. Thanks for voting for us, retards.

>This trial has damaged his reputation among average Republicans even with an acquittal.
This is cope.

>The same could be said about the trial or the entire impeachment in the first place
and let an insurrection attempt by the president go without any sign of possible repercussions?
This went beyond partisan rancor, yet it was not treated as such. The Senate is broken and this was yet another glaring example.

>insurrection attempt

>Republicans say Trump shouldn’t view himself as vindicated, even as they handed him a significant political win in the form of an acquittal. If he had been convicted, Democrats were preparing to hold a second vote to bar him from holding future office.

>"I hope not," said Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.) when asked if the acquittal should be viewed as the GOP condoning Trump’s rhetoric. "I mean, I think it's really important for us to separate those two matters because there are certainly things I've spoken out about and against, and I think most have."
thehill.com/homenews/senate/538750-senate-gop-acquits-trump-for-second-time

They don't argue in good faith. Most of them want to troll you or make you look stupid because they realize that rhetoric wins online arguments just as well (if not better) than pathos/ethos/logos, and is a lot more lulzy. They'll take whatever stance, even if it's contradictory, to make you look stupid. Note that libs do this too (look at Reddit), but Dab Forums elevates it to an artform.

>and let an insurrection attempt by the president go without any sign of possible repercussions?
Sooner or later you all are going to be held responsible for your absolute rape of the English language and obfuscation of the set definition of words.

>The Senate is broken and this was yet another glaring example.
The entire government is broken, you just don't care when it personally benefits you. Because you're a sociopath.

Bad faith argument, seeing as how this trial would not have taken place had the president committed to a peace transition of power in the first place.

But don't most conservatives oppose the checks as gimmes, and the vaccine rollout as a state responsibility? You'd just vote it down anyways.

>Trump shouldn’t view himself as vindicated
LMAO it's like the Mueller probe all over again

>he's not vindicated!
>so? is anything gonna happen?
>no but HE'S NOT VINDICATED REEEEE

We're well aware. Obviously convinction was never going to happen with the GOP as cancerous as it is, but now we have proof of just how treasonous Republican senators are. They're going to lose their seats in every swing state come 2022.

you're not saying anything of value.

>make statement
>call it out for the cope it is
>respond with a completely unrelated post
y

Haha that was funny remember when literally all of your politicians were outright encouraging a left-wing insurrection in the united states on behalf of a vaguely defined civil rights movement which burned down dozens of cities and resulted in more than a few federal buildings being attacked?

haha but remember you're not the one arguing in good faith it's fine if I just ignore that the last year happened when it's convenient for me hoho. ORANGE MAN BAD

It's a quote from a Senator saying that his reputation has been damaged.

What three states? Georgia is going to be ratfucked by the state Republicans and New York is going to get stonewalled like they've been.
Appointing a special prosecutor for Trump is a no brainer. Hell, you need multiple ones to investigate all his crimes.

Neither was the person I was responding to.

Your rage is delicious.

>MUH CONSERVATIVES
This is why democrats get to rob you blind, smoothbrain. They're both conservative parties.

And now the new norm will be for the losers to deny they lost and riot at DC. You can be damn sure if Biden loses his reelection that Leftists will use that as an excuse to violently protest the decision solely based on "Conservatives got to do it!"

They did up until Biden took control. Now it is a federal responsibility. Also, they don't think COVID is a big deal, they're just trying to use it to show how hypocritical the left is (see all the comments they keep making about how the liberal media dropped the COVID meme the moment Trump left, despite the media still focusing on it).

Misquoted sorry.

lazy whataboutism, try again.

I genuinely don't understand this
>give him everything he wants for four years
>tolerate his Twitter bullshit, ducking questions about it
>finally have a chance to demonstrate you're fed with him and he's persona non grata now
>acquit him
>complain about how people might conflate his rhetoric with your party's
You can't have both. You either condone him and acquit, or reject him and condemn.

>Pretending false flags are a violent coup against the government.
Imagine being this much of a traitor.

nothing officially happened but he did lose the election

Funny cope. They literally had "2000 CHECKS WILL RESULT IN YOU VOTING FOR ME" advertisements in Georgia but bunkercucks will defend it because "A-at least it's not republicans. You're not arguing in bad faith. My feel face."

God fucking damn it, do you guys ever do anything but project your own bad faith arguments? I know bunkercucks are basically just Democrat shills and not actual liberals but at least pretend to be for left leaning causes if you're going to whinge about conservatives.

>i genuinely dont understand how a representative democracy works
Google: Liz Cheney

I hate both, but I don't pretend one side is the same. Dem base will just perpetuate a shitty system, Rep base wants Rope Day.

Not worry, he'll run again in 2024 :)

You seem upset, ShareBlue. Lol you lose. Thanks for playing, now go back to reddddddit.

I think they're trying to put a clever spin on it so that Trump stays unelectable while also keeping as much of Trump's base and the moderates happy as possible.

That's why we must vote Republicans, so that nobody gets a handout. Better to get no handout than a shitty half assed one.

>STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP IT'S ONLY AN INSURRECTION WHEN YOU DO IT
Cope idiot. Those retards last year directly lead to the Capitol riots and Trump getting acquitted. You can cope and seethe all you want but the actions of your righty corporate democrats directly lead to today's result.

Lazy bad faith arguments from the coping left that just happens to suck the dick of the corporate right. Try again.

You'd think they'd learn not to try and toe that line, considering Trump whining about losing the election went from "what's the harm in humoring him?" to rioters erecting a gallows to hang the VP from.

if he starts his own maga party then the country will really win bigly

>I hate both, but I don't pretend one side is the same.
They're both exactly the same. Corporate democrats are 100% just republicans with blue pins.
Also
>implying dems don't also want rope day
This is how said republicans in blue shirts control you. Yeah, vote blue no matter who smoothbrain. Ignore the fact they outright betrayed every one of their campaign promises to progressive policies just because Orange Man bad. Hey I wonder why the Republicans want rope day? could it be because it's clear all of their political opponents are brainwashed cultists like yourself?

Hilarious cope. I can feel you clawing and moaning from here. You could have had 2000 dollar handouts if you, you know, raised as much of a shitfit about it as you did some drug addict getting shot.
Nope, Biden good! Biden can do no wrong! I don't need the money anyway! Lmao. Enjoy your acquittal. This is a direct result of Biden and the Democrats policies of the past year.

where's the smug anime girl, bunkercuck?

not cope, no matter how many times you say it.
>the actions of your righty corporate democrats directly lead to today's result.
>righty corporate democrats
>left-wing insurrection in the united states on behalf of a vaguely defined civil rights movement
You're just talking out of your ass.

They don't have any other options. Trump barely won in 2016 even after bringing new energy into the Republican platform. Then Trump lost in 2020, so they have to keep his base while also bringing back the moderates he scared off if the Republican Party wants to stay viable in the next few general elections.

>N-N-N-NOT COPE
Haaaaaaaaah, you are coping so hard that it's hard to put into words just how sad you're behaving.
>the actions of your righty corporate democrats directly lead to today's result.
>righty corporate democrats
Like this shit. This is the part where you try to pretend the Democrats aren't just a right-leaning party of opportunists. You would gladly admit this any other day of the week if this wasn't the acquittal thread, but you start waffling here because that's how you cope with the idea that you're not getting a single fucking thing you voted for, including Trump in prison.

Can't wait to see your seething.

>You're just talking out of your ass.
Haha that's funny, remember how 2020 didn't happen and there wasn't major political Democrat figureheads encouraging rioting in the streets and violence that killed over 40 Americans?
Remember though if you're republican you're the one arguing in bad faith, not the guy literally pretending an entire year documented in video didn't happen. Hoho.

nice assuming there lmao.
Good way to detract from the subject at hand too.

>lose the election
>have to preside over the counting of the votes that will kick you out
>your President whips rioters into a frenzy to stop you from doing your final administrative duty
>you barely avoid being found by a crowd literally calling for your execution as your President eggs them on and calls you a coward
>watching as your former Senate colleagues vote to acquit the person responsible all the while talking about how obviously at fault the President was
What's the Mike Pence equivalent of screaming at the television? Because the poor guy's gotta be furious at how this has transpired.

Cringey cope bro. What happened to "LOCK HIM UP"? Oh right, that was just as delusional of a demand as it was to lock up Hillary or get 2000 dollar checks from your war-mongering political party.
However you deal with the ass trauma that today has delivered to you.

also
>Moderates want anything to do with Democrats, either.
Yeah those moderates who like burning down local convenience stores. Ultimate cope from the useful idiot party.

>You're just talking out of your ass.
Portland looks like WW2 Stalingrad thanks to you fuckers. I've seen the areal photos, there's no building left standing. Tens of millions are dead and the media won't cover it! No insurrection my ass, it's still going on. They've been moving against us this whole last year and have began operating in the open. Rothschild even tested his space laser in California and no one batted an eye. Open your eyes, you faggot!

>nice assuming there lmao.
It's not an assumption, you're just making an ass of yourself.
>Good way to detract from the subject at hand too.
I mean I think that's what you would want to do to ignore what happened today. However you cope, bro.

Stop getting your news from Dab Forums and Facebook memes.

jesus, frothing at the mouth aren't you.

Anyways, you can bet this will bite the conservative movement right in the ass and hopefully the US can start the process of removing corporate influence from its politics, although I'm not too hopeful.

>political strategy is cope
Please outline for me how the Republicans can come out of this fiasco with a win in 2024.

Don't you have a gym manager to fuck, Ms. Greene?

Cope, shithead. Oh wait, I guess only a LITTLE bit of rioting and terrorism is OK. As long as you're doing it though.

He's trying a cringe false flag. Ignore the brainless fucker.
>Anyways, you can bet this will bite the conservative movement right in the ass
Convicting would be biting it in the ass, because most people just see this as political theatre that it is. You should have gone to this trial with more evidence instead of feelings, but I forgot that you kind of banked on feelings when they started making empty promises to get elected.

>Please outline for me how the Republicans can come out of this fiasco with a win in 2024.
2020 was a down-ballot red wave. Bidens victory was by

last word is yours, take it.

Run someone who isn't Trump but is willing to play Trump's Greatest Hits
>Build a wall
>Lock him/her up
>Get tough on China where "Beijing Biden" won't
>overturning Biden's executive orders and reinstating Trump's
>muh Paris Accord
>muh Iran deal
>"but his laptop!"

>and there will be no mail-ins in 2024.
So you admit Republicans need to cheat to win.

>Convicting would be biting it in the ass, because most people just see this as political theatre that it is. You should have gone to this trial with more evidence instead of feelings, but I forgot that you kind of banked on feelings when they started making empty promises to get elected.

>foxnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-trial-polls-slight-majority-support-conviction

Polls said that majority support convicting Trump.

>inb4 >polls

Pompeo/Gabbard. With Trump working for them like Obama worked for Biden this time around.

Mark my words.

>Please outline for me how the Republicans can come out of this fiasco with a win in 2024.
They could win tomorrow if there was an election held. You forgot just how many people Biden has burned now that he thinks that he has the podium for the next four years.
In the first month he has
-Betrayed voters on 2000 dollar checks
-Betrayed voters on saber rattling with Iran
-Betrayed voters on energy neutrality
-Betrayed BLM by jettisoning their demands the second he got power
-Betrayed progressives by electing outright neo-cons for his cabinet

He's burned all of his allies. The republicans could win if they just ran a neutral conservative just on the merit that he's not Biden. I think whining and moaning about "THIS IS GOOD FOR MY SIDE, REALLY" is the real cope, here. "THE REPUBLICANS ARE DESTROYED" is the new cry that will replace "THEY'RE GUNNA THROW TURNIP IN PRISON" that you'll adopt to keep from coping with a rope in minecraft, lmao

>You should have gone to this trial with more evidence instead of feelings
but there was plenty of evidence, you just ignoring it for some reason.

790593
Nigga you think I will give such shit bait a (you)?

>Polls said that majority support convicting Trump.
>Foxnews
Oh wait, it's real news when it supports you, right? LMAO
>But remember righties are the ones not arguing in good faith
AAAAHAHAHAHA

Hawley and Cruz are both clearly gunning for this tactic, but I mean it was shown in November that the Trump base alone can't win the White House. They have to try to bring back the moderates and the undecideds who are repulsed by Trumpism too.

FoxNews is real news, just very biased.

checked and kek'd.
>fugging got 'em mate

>but there was plenty of evidence,
You have to be hard-brainwashed by NBC if you think "He suggested doing it on Twitter so that means he totally did it!" is going to put anyone away on treason or insurrection.

This assumes an now outdated view of politics.
I think people are a bit more attuned to what is going on in the wake of the last presidency.

COPE

Breitbart is my favorite of the main stream new sources.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH BUNKERCOPES
FORMERLY BUNKERCUCKS
ARE Y OU OK?

I'm not coping like you're saying though. If it gets to the point where an R is consistently incapable of winning the White House, the Ds will inevitably start splintering off into new parties as well.

>I think people are a bit more attuned to what is going on in the wake of the last presidency.
No they're not, if they were they wouldn't have voted for a fucking neo-con in hopes of him passing liberal progressive policies.
And it's not like they didn't have the chance. They had the chance every election since 2012 to vote f or bernie and they don't. Clearly, they aren't informed in the least.

>but I mean it was shown in November that the Trump base alone can't win the White House.
Joe Biden won by

>it was shown in November that the Trump base alone can't win the White House.
It can if you run someone who doesn't churn bile in people like Trump does. The guy was simultaneously his own best friend and worst enemy.
Run someone a little more milquetoast, who can talk about those Trump points more competently, with better composure and less spicy Twitter fingers, and you'll be able to channel a lot of passion out of the Trump base without simultaneously triggering the massive backlash we saw in November.
That's why Cruz and Hawley are leaning into it, they fit that profile to a T.

1. don't watch cable news at all
2. He set the stage for this in 2016 when he claimed voter fraud and created the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity (that so happened to prove him wrong) in 2017.

If it gets to the point that the GOP consistently cant win the White House, and Dems maintain their position of forcing certain policy positions, America will start splintering into new countries.

The deal is is that the more you energize your base, the more you energize the opponent's as well. Talking about sticking your opponents in concentration camps, for instance, would get your side frothing at the mouth and voting like crazy, but would do the same for the other side. It's all about balance and not pissing off the independents that lean your way too much (because independents are inherently milquetoast and hate extreme language).

>bunker
Is this the latest forced meme Dab Forums stole after everyone mocked them for hiding when Trump lost?

Isn't milquetoastiness exactly what a lot of Trump supporters hate though? He gained voters by riling them up instead of calmly outlining his policy positions. How do you keep those voters happy while also attracting people who want to hear calm, Presidential debate about fiscal policy?

>if they were they wouldn't have voted for a fucking neo-con in hopes of him passing liberal progressive policies.
I don't know about that. Given how quickly (like 2-3 days!) the Democratic Party moved to support Biden after considerable primary losses and winning South Carolina, it was the lesser of two evils in the eyes of a lot of people.
I love Bernie (and voted for him) but the establishment politicians were not gonna take chances with 2020.

>He's trying a cringe false flag. Ignore the brainless fucker.
I heard about jewish space laser first on Dab Forums and Dab Forums.

>That's why Cruz and Hawley are leaning into it, they fit that profile to a T.
No one is going to be able to come close to Trump's level of trollishness.
Cruz is a distant echo of that and he's the closest thing they got, maybe other than trump's kids.

They hate "the elites" and the milquetoastiness that the elites exude.
If you're willing to mimic Trump's winning formula, you're going to get lambasted by the media and Democrats for doing so, and that's what's going to get the base to circle the wagons, as it were.

Republicans usually don't have to lay out too much policy. The appeal of their movement is that problems and solutions can be boiled down to one or two memable lines. Sometimes it can and conservatives are right about libs obfuscating issues with technocratic complexity, sometimes it can't.

The fundamental issue is that Trumps platform, his actual policy platform (which is what people love) really, really pisses off the establishment. The rhetoric is irrelevant.

>The people didnt vote how the corporations wanted, so they changed the rules
>The people didnt buy shares how the corporations wanted, so they changed the rules
How many times does it have to happen for you to realize?

"milquetoast" was the wrong word.
they need someone who's willing to fight like hell, but picks his fights a bit more carefully
fight democrats and the media for [wedge issue here]? yes
mocking megyn kelly and mika brzezinski on twitter for no real reason? no

>mocking megyn kelly and mika brzezinski on twitter for no real reason? no
That's a feature for most of them. They love how much of an internet troll Trump is.

>mocking megyn kelly and mika brzezinski on twitter for no real reason? no
Megyn Kelly and Mika Brzezinski have been mocking his base for most of their careers. They get a kick out of it.

Not an internet troll, a sociopath. Conservatives are naturally that so they all flocked to Trump instantly.

sure, but that alienates the hell out of moderates. especially if it's obviously due to a case of bruised ego.
be pugnacious without being cruel. there's a fine line and cruz/hawley are enough of political operatives to straddle it.

>The rhetoric is irrelevant.
This is a joke, right?

His base wanted someone to "fight for them" and they will be looking at people like MTG who despite their batshit beliefs will go out and use fighting rhetoric.

I’m not talking about Jan. 6th. Libby

Republicans have proven over the past 20 years, you don't need moderates to win. Just overdrive your base and rely on rigging elections with gerrymandering and voter suppression.
Republicans are a fascist lite party now and look at how much influence hey still have.

I don't know much about Hawley, but Cruz tends to make everyone hate him no matter what he does.

What does G Gordon have to do with Trump's treason and the right wing staging multiple false flags during the summer protests?

>The changs appear

hey stop that lol.

Al Franken wrote an entire chapter of his memoirs about how hated Ted Cruz was. Possibly the only bipartisan opinion left in the Capitol at this point is that Cruz is an asshat.

>Al Franken
I'm still mad the democrats threw him under the bus. Especially after we found out the accusations against him were lies and the first won was a fringe right wing operative who worked for Fox News.

I fucked up my (you)s, I do not think you are a chang
>just an idiot

>really pisses off the establishment
No, he gives the elites what they want, but the elites can't stand his big mouth.

Biden gives the elites what they want, but stays quiet.

Biden is keeping the borders closed, and as for thr environment.. a bandage for cancer.

At least tRump's ripping off the bandage exposes the cancer to view.

And as for abortion...no body cares.

Only difference between dems and gop is cosmetic social policies and a little more bones tossed to the peasants.

The DC rioter brought pitchforks...I always thought it was the left that would do that.

In the name of accelerationism, I hope tRump wins in 2024.

Puble-licans didn't watch the imleachment or listen to anyone defend tGrump. That would go against the amount of denial that is necessary to remain a trump supporting Republican, or a Republican at all.

Looks like we got a new Ivan who got transferred to Dab Forums to shill and spread disinformation for Trump.
Who got a 15 million bribe from them.
Don't worry, you'll learn how this place works

Don't pretend you're proven:
Every protester in 2020 = BLM
Ever violate act = protester
Anifa being an actual real thing
siting random stuff without context = facts

You're not even in the states are you.

>2020 was a down-ballot red wave.
Weird how they lost the Senate then.
>Bidens victory was by

Dilate

>The DC rioter brought pitchforks...I always thought it was the left that would do that.
No, the lefties use skateboards, bricks, frozen water bottles, bike locks in backpacks, rocks, and sharpened pvc pipes disguised as blm banner holders.

*A WILD ELECTION TOURIST ARRIVES*

>Weird how they lost the Senate then.
They were supposed to lose 6 seats. They lost two. In the house they were supposed to lose ~20 seats they picked up 14. At the state level it was a complete blowout.

>Biden choosing not to run has nothing to do with whether or not Harris will.
Harris cant run, she could barely survive the first few rounds of the DNC primaries. Good luck explaining why you arent running super-popular first black lady!

Neo-con Biden is still a hundred times better for any progressive than Trump. It sucks that we have to pick between the two of them but it doesn't mean voting for Biden is a mistake.

>voting for Woke George Bush is totally a fucking cool thing bro!
You voted for the establishment. Never forget that.

Trump is out of office already, they're just wasting time and tax dollars now. Welcome to 1984 everyone, remember Big Brother is watching.

>They were supposed to lose 6 seats. They lost two. In the house they were supposed to lose ~20 seats they picked up 14. At the state level it was a complete blowout.
Okay? Losing by less than was expected doesn't make it a "red wave". They still lost.

>Harris cant run, she could barely survive the first few rounds of the DNC primaries. Good luck explaining why you arent running super-popular first black lady!
Again, how does this have anything to do with Biden running again? When Biden chooses not to run because he's fucking 82 Harris is free to enter the primaries again as her own candidate. If she fails there, she fails. Why does this matter?

John Boehner called him "Lucifer in the flesh, I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life."

>They didn't get BTFO as badly as expected so it doesn't matter they got BTFO
>Is still histerical about the DNC
>Calls another user an election tourist.
Oh the projecting and ironing.

Trump is a literal real estate billionaire, he's more establishment than anyone else in the country. Biden sucks, but he's still better than Trump.

>lose two senate seats
>btfo
So what was 2010 then? A fucking holocaust?

What is it about Cruz that makes people hate him so much? Is it that he tries to blend in with "common folk" while having two Ivy League degrees and it's disingenuous? Is it that he's the physical manifestation of "Don't mess with Texas" and it grates people?

A shellacking, in Obama's words.

With hindsight, yes, it was an absolute holocaust.

He comes across as a greasy used car salesman. Even as a Republican I dont like him. There is a reason Democrats target him and not Cornyn.

also
>hurr dont mess makes me mad!
It seems our superiority has caused some controversy.

This. The DNC's mistake is not moving far enough left fast enough. Modern politics isn't about convincing the moderates that you're the better and more competent candidate, it's about convincing the people who normally don't vote that you're actually going to do something for them. Actually supporting incredibly popular left-wing policies like M4A would do that.

Are you still trying to perpetuate the myth that antifa scum still don’t exist, or has no structure? That falsity has long been btfo. We all saw footage showing all of the parasites looting stores and burning buildings. blm is just a self described marxist, money laundering tool.

m4a isnt as popular as you think it is. it recent rise in popularity is because republicans dropped their messaging after neutering it and democrats shifted their messaging about it to focus more on pre-existing conditions.

If Joe and Schumer figure out a way to save it you can bet your ass the GOP will flick the switch and you will see another Tea Party wave.

Cruz is a pasty two faced ass kisser without a single resonate belief. He has all the charisma of a bowl of cowshit. Republicans tolerate him because at this point they're held hostage to the tea party/maga caucus but if you shot Ted Cruz on the senate floor while the senate was in session they would 100% acquit you. t. Lindsey Graham.

Granted after this weeks trial and the senates history I think a senate acquittal is probably a greater indicator of guiltiness than anything.

>Lose control of the senate
Yes, you got BTFO

That's because the democrats don't actually defend their positions and run away.
If democrats actually made a pitch for M4A and stuck to it and said 'fuck off' when the Republicans use their socialism boogyman, they'd be a lot better off.

>lose control
Its a hung Senate, dipshit. Neither side controls it (exactly how it ought to be).

>Neither side control it.
Madam Vice president disagrees faggot.

Republicans dont have to use any boogyman with M4a. They just have to wait for taxpayers to get the bill.

How many votes do you need to defeat a filibuster?

>Neither side controls it
Kamala would be surprised to hear that.

And all the democrats have to do is say they pay out the ass for insurance that leaves them to die when they need them to pay out.

by that logic no one's "controlled" the Senate since Democrats had their six-month supermajority in 2009. Is that really what you're arguing?

>Kamala would be surprised to hear that.
I would very much doubt that, considering her knowledge of the use and operation of the filibuster.

>Moving the goalposts.
Democrats still control the senate.

They moved so far left, so fast in the debates it was hilarious. If they got stuck on something, they just went farther left. The dems let a self described fucking socialist run in their party.TWICE!! They went so far left, it pushed moderates to vote to the right.

Remove the filibuster and it'll actually be able to do something.

At this point, Hawley couldn't win reelection in his home State MO, let alone the nomination for president. The only "people" who support him there now are from the Ozarks who look like a "Deliverance" extra.

Pretty much.

Considering his claim to fame is unseating a Democrat, I think he will be fine.

If any president from Teddy to LBJ tried to run for office today they'd get called a socialist. The US has moved so far to the right on economic policy it's ridiculous.

I prefer rule through consensus when the alternative is the tyranny of the 51%. No doubt as do you.

The only ones calling for his resignation are in liberal St Louis, KC and some college kids in Columbia.

>r/iamapieceofsh!t
Is that some plebbit shit? Why don't you go back there and stay there.

Anything that's meant to help the the common people and goes against the billionaires and oligarchs is labeled as socialism by conservatives.

LBJ was a fucking socialist.

His approval rating across all of Missouri is less than 40%. They may not be calling for resignation, but he won't be re-elected.

There’s a difference between someone calling you a socialist, and you running on it.

>If a liberal staged a violent coup, you'd know the democrats would vote to convict.
Like they did with CHAZ, right? Remember all that condemnation they got?

Anything thats meant to help the common people and goes against the billionaires and oligarchs is labeled as fascism/nativism/bigotry by liberals.

Shit cuts both ways my dude.

>I'd rather be stuck in the mud than take my chances and at least switch gears

And he's the best president we've had since WW2. Coincidence?

Yeah, run a gun grabber from KC or St Louis and watch them get btfo

>His approval rating across all of Missouri is less than 40%
*ahem*
>POLLS

Democratic Socialism is infinitely preferable over the GOP's full court NAZI Fascism we saw implemented under Trump and Moscow Mitch for the majority of Americans who tune out the rightwing media corporate mouthpieces. Ironically it would be more appealing to Trump's base of disenfranchised Billy Bob's and Sally Sues if they were capable of investigating what it really is instead of listening to childish level propaganda.

Leftie here, fuck off with your immature and regurgitated takes.

>And he's the best president we've had since WW2
U FUKKEN WOT MATE

Polls of 18-24 year olds attending a liberal arts indoctrination studies

>manchin
>sinema
>jones
Dems are no strangers to running moderates to flip seats in normally Red states.

You are free to go live in these Democratic socialist utopias, I hear Venezuela is lovely this time of year, if you can find food and avoid getting killed.

>Whataboutism and false equivalency

Fuck off chang. We are having a nice chat, come back and shill later.

They do it on the house races, just didn’t see it happen on the presidential side

Nope, It's conservatives who have pushed 40 years of trickle down economics.

>Dems are no strangers to running moderates to flip seats in normally Red states.
Yeah, and they cucked you on the filibuster and the immigration bill.

Both parties need to stop thinking about winning seats for these symbolic victories
>hurr! we took the senate but we cant do anything!
and instead we should all be focusing on just running the right people.

t. auditioned for role of male rapist in "Deliverance" but were rejected because their moaning/grunting sounds were too high pitched

Manchin sucks but he's still better than a Republican senator, if only because he gives Dems the senate majority and prevents McConnell's cancerous strategy of refusing to table bills. This way the GOP senators actually have to risk their necks by refusing to vote for such popular measures as covid relief checks or marijuana legalization. Plus we can pass DC and Puerto Rican statehood to extend the Democrat majority and make Manchin's pro-filibuster position irrelevant.

T. Is a card carrying socialist, doesn’t have the balls to live in a socialist country. Ironic?not really

Fuck pr and dc into being a state. Dc is stateless for a reason

Fucking this. I don't care how normalized this bullshit is, it's not what politics should be.
It's officially reached the point where you could encourage rioters to break in and shit inside of the capitol building (deliberately on the day of final vote certification) over losing an election you couldn't out-gerrymander your opponent in, simply keep it vague by sprinkling in a few half-hearted "no don't" statements as it happens solely to show in the trial later, and still get off the hook because the senators on your team are too scared of your fanatic supporters ruining their re-election chances.
The Republican party used to be so much better than this.
>But what about the democrat mobs looting cities?
They were just as bad and deserve the same treatment as the capitol rioters who got shot at and/or thrown in prison. The people (Cuomo, Pelosi, etc.) excusing the summer looters are just as bad as Trump underhandedly encouraging the amateur siege of literal government buildings out of spite. Because they're doing the exact same thing by subtly enabling violence with excuses at the ready to use later. No one deserves special treatment, red team, blue team, green team, orange team, it doesn't matter.

>Manchin sucks but he's still better than a Republican senator,
My guy. He is the Senator for West Virginia, he is a Republican. Here are his official positions:
>Pro-Gun
>Opposed to gay marriage
>iffy on M4A
ballotpedia.org/Joe_Manchin_III

He is the DNC's very own Mitt Romney

>DNC
Still beats being run by Putin like Trump is.

False equivalency, yet again.
For one, none of these other politicians do not have access to the awesome (literal meaning) power of the bully pulpit.
Another is the the riots/mostly peaceful protests that you are referring to were not predicated on a lie.

The Constitution only says that the capital needs to be located on federally owned property separate from any state, it doesn't say how big it needs to be. You could shrink the capital grounds down to just the national mall and other federal buildings while turning the actual city itself over to the new state of DC.

Yes, but he's still a Democrat and caucuses with them as such. He gives Democrats the senate majority, that's a much better outcome than if it was a literal Republican in his seat.

>He gives Democrats the senate majority, that's a much better outcome than if it was a literal Republican in his seat.
The majority is, as I said, largely symbolic and as I have just demonstrated he votes as a Republican more often than not when it comes to key issues.

>actual city itself over to the new state of DC.
Why would you not simply incorporate the city then into the larger surrounding states which, having a larger tax base, would be better equipped to handle the cities needs?

Unless, of course, the goal is power.

He voted to push through the COVID rescue plan against Republican obstruction who's plan is to crash the American economy and murder as many Americans as possible.
Also, he's against treason since he voted to convict Trump over the failed coup attempt.
That's a plus for Manchin over the normal traitors that makes up the Republican party.

>Another is the the riots/mostly peaceful protests that you are referring to were not predicated on a lie.
We're in a time where people disagree on what the truth is on a scale like never before. You can call literally anything a lie nowadays and millions of people will automatically believe you without any proof. Whether it be police brutality or election fraud.
And don't tell me that the media doesn't have the same amount of sway that Trump had, just in the eyes of different groups.
Also, that was my first post in this thread. This one is my second.

Are you false flagging to make democrats look like hysterical retards?

The majority is far from symbolic because the Senate majority leader controls the proceedings of the Senate. That is why Mitch McConnel was such an issue. His positions aren't really any worse than your average Republican and there are plenty of worse senators like Hawley. But McConnel being Majority Leader gave him the authority to do things like refuse to table any bills he didn't like from a vote, which meant he could protect Republican senators in swing states from having to risk their re-election by making unpopular votes. Now that Schumer is majority leader, thanks in part to Manchin being a Dem, that is no longer an issue.

The citizens of DC themselves don't want to be part of Virginia or Maryland, this has been voted on many times. They want to be their own state.

>They want to be their own state.
50 other states have say in the issue.

Vote-a-ramas arent nearly as damaging as you think they are. They just did one with the budget reconciliation, the effect thereof? Crickets.

>You can call literally anything a lie nowadays and millions of people will automatically believe you without any proof. Whether it be police brutality or election fraud
Both sides? Really?
>And don't tell me that the media doesn't have the same amount of sway that Trump had, just in the eyes of different groups
But the media also airs Trump too, capturing what he says on camera because they have to show what he is saying as POTUS.
>Also, that was my first post in this thread. This one is my second.
Was referring to this argument already being made in the thread, not an individual poster posting again.

>DNC
Running Xiden

Why are the simple facts a false flag or hysterical?
Republicans want Americans to die, that's been Trump's aka the Republican platform throughout the Trump Virus pandemic.

Sure they were. Big Floyd died of an overdose of fentanyl,

Nice try Ivan.

What reason is there, other than to get 2 senators and a congressman, for having a city state?

>50 other states have say in the issue.
Admission to the Union only requires consent of Congress and the prospective state in question, not the other states. And both the Dem-majority Congress, Manchin and other moderates included, and the DC government support statehood. The same goes for Puerto Rico (which is even supported by some Congressional Republicans like Rubio).

Still trying to get sued for slander Tucker?

What reason is there for Wyoming being a state, other than to have 2 senators and a congressman? Political representation is literally the point of statehood, this isn't some gotcha.

>My guy
Why do you guys say this shit? Really faggy

>i was wrong on admission
Fuck

Puerto Rico admission has been on the GOP platform since before 2015.
>something for you to ruminate on

As for the admission of DC, well, there will be consequences - for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction - if the DNC wants to pay they price then there is nothing stopping them.

Just wait when Chauvin goes free when the coroner testifies exactly this and he walks. You think all those Democratic shitholes like Minneapolis, Seattle, Chicongo and Portland are bad know? Last summer was just a warmup, just wait and see, they had to push for murder 1 and that’s going to be tough to get a conviction on.

How big is Wyoming compared to the city of DC?

This is actually pretty funny. It belongs in YLYL. Thanks for the giggle

He will get something associated with negligence and excessive use of force
>at fucking best

Its going to be very ugly.

Hahahahaha

And it will be the Republicans fault because their policies let police murder people with impunity and they block any attempt at reform.

Wait a minute, point B does not lead from point A, nor does your "evidence" support either point
This sounds almost like a real comment, but the word salad effect really undermines it.
So, Russian dude paid a handful of rubles an hour to shitpost, or genuine uneducated hick who just honestly doesn't know any better?

It reads "we the people" not "we the windy desolate states"

>Nervously laughing because you got correctly called out.

>Both sides? Really?
Yes. No massive group is free from having loads of fanatics making their party or whatever look worse overall with blind passion. At least not in the two major parties being discussed here.
There will always be tons of people willing to get violent and rebellious so long as it's for a cause they believe calls for such behavior.
>But the media also airs Trump too, capturing what he says on camera because they have to show what he is saying as POTUS.
And the more widespread media that openly goes against him is part of the reason why Trump is extremely unpopular (albeit rightfully so in a lot of cases) among almost half the masses who watch. If media outlets were the only determining factor in elections etc., Trump would have a nearly vertical uphill battle to fight given he only has Fox News and other smaller outlets that often get discredited on his side, while going up against media giants like CNN, MSNBC, etc.
But still, anyone violently looting buildings for any cause is not justified, and people with the ability to convince millions of people of things either encouraging it or dismissing it are also not justified.
>Was referring to this argument already being made in the thread, not an individual poster posting again.
Alright, got it.

>the the riots/mostly peaceful protests that you are referring to were not predicated on a lie.
The narrative that sparked it was that a group of racist police officers targeted and executed a black man for being black.
Then evidence came out that he had a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system and the narrative changed to simple police brutality for roughly detaining him.
Then evidence came out that he was detained on the ground because he resisted arrested and kicked his way out of the police car and onto the ground, causing the cops to give up trying to move him into the car and instead keep him still while an ambulance came to check him out.
The rioters didn't want for any additional context or evidence.

You can make an emotive argument if you so wish, the problem is that everyone knows your motives so it makes you look like a fucking schiester.

Its about getting numbers in the Senate, just own it.

You watch too much Harry Potter, man. "Whataboutism false equivalum!" isn't a magic spell you can cast that nullifies the accusation of hypocrisy.

Statehood requires 60,000 people minimum according to the constitution, and both Wyoming (580K) and DC (690K) more than meet that requirement. There's no minimum area requirement, so if that's what you meant by "big" I don't see how it's relevant.

>Trying to project now
Imagine getting this blown the fuck out by simple terms that you think they have magical powers.

Where does it state that? Just asking because US Samosa is at 55k. But if the dems were serious, they could give DC, PR, Guam, and US Virgin Islands statehood if the 60k threashold is real.

>if [whataboutism] fails
>cast projection

Looking more into it, there is no constitutionally required minimum, 60k is just the standard Congress traditionally held to back during the pioneering days. Still, DC more than meets that traditional barrier.

And the Dems let all the carjackers, strong arm robbers, looters, arsonist go free because they are so oppressed we should all feel sorry for them. But they won’t admit the fact that the biggest threat to a young black man, is a young black man. Seriously cops are responsible for a minute number of unjustified homocides

Again, what reason is there for Wyoming to be a state outside of getting senators and a congressman? Political representation is the explicit purpose of statehood, and the people of DC and Puerto Rico want representation. The only sinister elements at play here are the Republicans who oppose statehood merely on the basis that it would make it harder for them to hold a majority in Congress or win Presidential elections. I don't remember Democrats in the 50s opposing Alaskan statehood because it would be a safe Republican state - not since the civil war with the issue of Free vs Slave states has the admission of a state been debated so heavily. Every statehood since had been passed with little fanfare because everyone agreed giving political representation to US citizens was important regardless of partisan bias.

Got proof? Or are you going to post your outdated and flawed data? Oh wait, you can't.

Puerto Ricans are too separate from Americans. When we made Alaska and Hawaii states, we flooded them with white Americans. I don't think we could do that with Puerto Rico now, so what'd be the point?

So you're against statehood because of racism. Gotcha.

Puerto Rico is whiter than Hawaii, Alaska, Mississippi, Texas, California, and several other states.

>racism
I am an American. We are white. Puerto Ricans are their own people. There's no reason why their country would need to be an American state.
You have to seriously stretch the word "white" to say this

No they speak spanish so they are functionally identical to west africans.

For real though Puerto Rico should either be independent or a state, there is no reason for it to be in such a limbo state

>only WASPs are white!
yikes

>Americans are only white
As I said, you're racist. And a cancer to true Americans.

Indigenous mixed black hispanics are not white people.

The majority of Puerto Ricans do not have significant indigenous or black ancestry.

>>Americans are only white
By law, no. In essence, yes.
>a cancer to true Americans
True Americans created the United States and wrote laws that for generations made it illegal for non-white people to even be citizens. If you want to go the "I'm a patriot" route over your beliefs, it'll be a struggle.

I'm googling "puerto rican people" and seeing a sea of brown

Hispanics occupying TX, CO, AZ, NM and CA when your ancestors stole the land from Mexico were granted citizenship, sturdrumpfer.

And if you google "Irish people" you'll see a sea of redheads but that doesn't mean the majority of Ireland has red hair. It's just a stereotype that's more likely to be represented in media intended to sell the idea of "Irishness", just like brown skin for "Puerto Ricaness".

>am an American. We are white.
As of the 2020 census America will only be 55%-60% white and that includes hispanics self identifying as white, sturmdrumpfer. It won't be so bad, by 2030 you'll be a minority and subject to all the "benefits" thereof ;)

Sure, on which part, the prosecutors of Democratic cities not prosecuting riot crime, or the demographic crime data?

Nah, you're just a racist and again, naively want to believe that America is a white supremacist state and will probably commit treason against America.

You mean when Mexico lost a war and was forced to sell part of its land in a treaty, after which Mexicans still couldn't migrate and be naturalized as citizens, nor were their children US citizens until the 14th amendment passed. This was all many decades after the founding.

Can't wait to see how it's cherrypicked.

>naively want to believe that America is a white supremacist state
Founded by white slave owners and for almost 200 years had policies specifically intended to maintain a non-white majority, affecting citizenship and immigration laws. That's simply a fact. Of course now things have changed, but you can trace those changes back to policies that at the time they were implemented weren't even intended to change things. In light of that, I don't know what version of America you think you're a patriot of. Anything before the 1980s you hated, but I'm the un-American one?

Maybe answer the question?

what foundational democratic process was BLM trying to interfere in?

The right to a fair trial for a start.

>> theblaze.com/conservative-review/can-incarceration-rates-racist-reflect-actual-crime-rates
heyjackass.com
You can check the fbi violent crime stats too.. they all pretty much tell the same story.

See above

Hate to have to shove it up your poop shoot sturmdrumpfer but it's already gaping so shouldn't hurt too bad.

>The history of Mexican Americans, or American residents of Mexican descent, largely begins after the annexation of Northern Mexico in 1848, when the nearly 80,000 Mexican citizens of California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Colorado, and New Mexico became U.S. citizens.[1][2]
>in 1848, when the nearly 80,000 Mexican citizens of California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Colorado, and New Mexico became U.S. citizens.
>1848...became U.S. citizens.

Exclusive to those specific people as part of the treaty, not applicable to Mexicans generally (unless they could prove in a court of law that they were white) or even their children. What point exactly did you want to make?

Try speaking English sturmdrumpfer, your incoherent babbling sounds and smells like a broken septic tank leaking.

>The Blaze
>Glenn Beck's rag
Got anything that's not lies, or damned lies?

I'll take that as "no point."

Yup you are, because traitors like you started a Civil War where you got your asses kicked, it's a shame America lost reconstruction because we still have white supremacists like you lingering.

Truth is Hispanic is considered white for the past few censuses. Blacks have the highest rate of violence, Hispanic is next, then white. The SJW decided that if they counted Hispanics as white, it would help close the large differences in percentage and public perception. The same reason that the they use the incidence of crime per 100,000 population. It makes the small town with low violent crime, 1/1,000 have the same rating as the big city with 1000/1,000000

Hispanic is not a racial category, it's a term for people who speak Spanish and have a Spanish-influenced culture. There are white Hispanics, black Hispanics, indigenous Hispanics, and mixed-race Hispanics.

>traitors like you started a Civil War
Do you think the two sides of the Civil War were white nationalists and globalists? The north didn't want non-white citizens or equal rights any more than the south did. The only reason the 14th amendment passed was in one part because they needed to make freed slaves accountable to legal jurisdiction, and in another part, as discussed on the floor of congress, it was expected and accepted at the time that non-whites by their nature would remain an insignificant minority and be found only in specific pockets of the country.
By your standards, virtually everyone was "a traitor to America" from its inception to just the last few decades.

>Globalists
>In the 19th century
LOLOLOLOLOLOL, now this is some fucking cope.

Why do you treat the founders like a monolith? They were very ideologically diverse and had all sorts of different beliefs, people like had Thomas Paine were arguing for universal suffrage before the Revolution even began. Not everyone was a racist or a slaveowner, then or now.

So to answer my question, you didn't. In which case, as was my point, it wasn't "you traitors vs me non-traitors"

Dude, the North was chock-a-block full of abolitionists. Even Mark Twain from MO was a staunch abolitionist. Your revisionist history is as bad as the "1776 Commision" which thankfully has been swept onto the rubbish heap.

>Dude, the North was chock-a-block full of abolitionists.
Abolitionists, yes. To be an abolitionist didn't make you a modern day civil rights advocate. Thomas Jefferson was an abolitionist, he still wanted to deport free blacks to Africa and stated they couldn't live under the same government as whites without leading to catastrophe. After slavery was abolished, even in the North, it took another century before there came a push to grant equal rights to blacks.

There were people pushing for equal rights back then too. Not enough to force change to happen, but they existed.

Nah, you just created a straw man to try and defend your white supremacy.

Do you have to be spoon fed? Like I said fbi violent crime stats.

Oh, you mean the stats that were wrong?
usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/29/fact-check-meme-shows-incorrect-homicide-stats-race/5739522002/

That would have been a sparse, fringe opinion, and as far as I'm aware never expressed by any political figure. I'm sure that idea existed in some but it's irrelevant to the conversation and has no bearing on the fact of the matter that having a white view of America was never "treason" or attributable to simply the American South during only the civil war. That is a cartoon view of history.

>1776 Commision" which thankfully has been swept onto the rubbish heap.
To be replaced by the 1619 project or whatever the fuck.

>Nah, you just created a straw man to try and defend your white supremacy.
Any way you slice it, you still lose, Shareblue. Thanks for playing, bye now.

>Everyone who's against white supremacy is shareblue
Rentfree

Black people had the right to vote in New York even before the civil war.
>I'm sure that idea existed in some but it's irrelevant to the conversation and has no bearing on the fact of the matter that having a white view of America was never "treason" or attributable to simply the American South during only the civil war. That is a cartoon view of history.
I don't care about that, I'm not the original user you're arguing with. I just have issue with your claim about how progressives must "hate anything before the 1980s" and are therefore un-American.
There have always been positive parts to love and admire about America, just as there have always been negative things to disavow and change.

Now THIS is Yellow journalism!

>Black people had the right to vote in New York even before the civil war.
Interesting, although under very limited circumstances for the time, and efforts to extend this to the general population of blacks were rejected.
>I just have issue with your claim about how progressives must "hate anything before the 1980s" and are therefore un-American.
>There have always been positive parts to love and admire about America, just as there have always been negative things to disavow and change.
The thing is though, that what you view as "negative parts" were considered positive parts for most of the nation's history and by its most prominent and important historical figures. You're in 2021 looking back on the nation and disagreeing with everything that was held dear about it through its history.

It was a bullshit political impeachment with manipulated 'evidence', and they knew it. That's why the Dems folded when the Republicans said they'd call witnesses like Pelosi to the stand, and the Dems had bottom surgery performed on them rather than the lubing they'd expected to deal the Republicans. The rule of law prevailed, just not the rule of law the Dems wanted to apply in 'Our Democracy'...not yours.

Given it was the prosecutors who asked for witnesses, they had a full plan on how to deal with Trump's bullshit. It was Schumer and Biden who shit the bed for reasons unknown.
Either way, Schumer's getting a primary now since he's always been a weak senate leader.

Also the impeachment was 100% justified because Trump staged a coup. It's just Republicans are traitors and would rather serve a dictator than the constitution.

Prove it.

At least Pelosi sounds pissed and said censure is not enough for Trump and his co-conspirators in congress. Basically implying there's going to be hostile investigations.
Here's hoping Biden has the balls to assign a special prosecutor for the 1/6 Coup attempt. Imagine how many Republicans they could nail if he did it.
Of course he won't.

Establishment Dems don't want to bring the GOP to collapse because then they'd have to actually do something.

Universal Suffrage at different times meant different things, and in Paine's day meant simply all citizens, which blacks weren't and wouldn't be until far after his death. Thomas Paine, like many others, was both an abolitionist and an advocate for a white America, and even wanted to move free blacks from the East coast towards the western territories to get them away from whites, and shared many ideas with Jefferson. There was no founding father that wanted a multiracial country, much less one where whites could be a minority.

That trillion to stop the trump virus and save the America economy seems like something.
Given Republicans are against it, it makes for a pretty good issue to run on too beyond that Republicans are traitors.

Democrats coitus interruptus.. so their fabrications cannot blow back up their own arses?

You should start off by kicking out the rabid Democrats like Nancy Pelosi. Call you rep and tell them that if you see any one representing your district not wanting to impeach Nancy then you're voting Rep or Independent.

The 1619 Project was pretty much universally rejected before the 1776 Commission was a thing, with everyone from real historians to actual socialist nutcases tearing it apart immediately.

Nah, no one cared before the racists started to raise a stick about it and now you see white supremacist legislators trying to ban it.
Because overt racism will win you the black votes.

Trump is innocent , always was ..... TRUMP 2024 .... the democrats are scared of trump and his amazing supporters over on Dab Forums ...

I don't use this board at all, and really no ones, but this place is clearly where I guess the bunker faggots who raided Dab Forums over the summer have settled.
I'm not a Dab Forums tard either, in case you want to spray that ad hominem

>GOP controlled senate refuses to call witnesses the first time
>Democrat controlled Senate forced to negotiate with GOP opposition to allow 1 (one) witness last minute, after deals were made to again, forgo calling witnesses.
The game was rigged from the start.

I've been browsing Dab Forums since 2011. If you're worried about offsiters colonizing Dab Forums, you should be angry at Dab Forums and the MAGAtards inviting every fringe-right winger from the_donald redditors to literal Facebook boomers to their board.

>Democrat controlled Senate forced
>Forced
Amazing how when the GOP has a majority they can actually do stuff easily, but when the Democrats have a majority and the alleged "most popular President and Vice President in history" in their corner, they're somehow always not able to get anything done, because "muh GOP".

>I've been browsing Dab Forums since 2011
LOL. No you haven't.
>If you're worried about offsiters colonizing Dab Forums, you should be angry at Dab Forums and the MAGAtards inviting every fringe-right winger from the_donald redditors to literal Facebook boomers to their board.
90% of Dab Forums and the_donald were old school Dab Forums users who've been browsing the site since before Dab Forums existed and /new/ was the political trouble of the day.

Stop pretending you belong here. You don't. You'll never be an oldfag, anymore than you'll ever be a real woman.

>I'm not a Dab Forumstard either
Only Dab Forumsppets claim that.

>only x agrees with me
>we're not x
>only x would claim to not be x
When are you going to get your posts deleted again for schizospam?

Calm down Dab Forumsppet, always being angry and projecting your mental health problems and sexual fetishes is bad for your health.

coolidge would never be called a socialist but nice try

>90% of Dab Forums and the_donald were old school Dab Forums users who've been browsing the site since before Dab Forums existed and /new/ was the political trouble of the day.

Old Dab Forums and /new/ users were either unironic "Hitler did nothing wrong" Nazis or socially liberal/fiscally conservative Libertarian Ron-Paulers. Neither group is anything like the Trump cult that makes up the plurality of Dab Forums today, those people mainly came during the 2016 election with a slower trickle throughout Trump's presidency and are viewed with disdain by what remains of the old Nazis and Libertarians. This is fact, you can literally look at the stats showing Dab Forums's growth in users, alongside Dab Forums as a whole, throughout the last few years. It didn't used to be the most popular board. Where did all those posters come from?

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

>90% of Dab Forums and the_donald were old school Dab Forums users who've been browsing the site since before Dab Forums existed and /new/ was the political trouble of the day.
>He thinks he knew the population of /new/
>He wasn't around for /n/ either
>MFW
youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

I want a good laugh, please, explain how a vast majority of redditors made up a chunk of Dab Forums's population well before 2015. I want to hear the latest revisionism that's being told to the redditors like yourself that make up Dab Forums

The GOP simply used the nuclear option to railroad policy through. The dems have it too, but given that there was news of a deal cut, I guess it wasn't used then. It's been used outside of the trial from what I know, so stay peeled.

You got 2 democrats who don't want to go nuclear. If by an act of God democrats make gains in the midterms, you can expect them to go nuclear to prepare for whatever shit the Republicans pull in 2024 to try and steal those elections. Although they're already preparing to steal 2022 with a massive wave of voter suppression laws.

clownworld: worst timeline

How will they steal 2024 when they're two different parties? Bwahahshaha.

Two parties? Trump's already won the 'civil war' given the Republican party voted to defend his treason, and the state parties are even more bat shit crazy, like one majority leader saying the coup was a false flag against Trump.
Never Trumpers make up the same negligible numbers that existed in 2020 and data shows their campaigning did jack shit except for proving they were just giant gifting projects like all conservative groups are.

And never forget how Republicans operate. You take down one enemy, they'll find someone even worse to replace them with.
So don't get cocky and keep going for their jugular.

That's not going to solve the issue of all the more moderate Republican and Republican-leaning independent voters who don't support Trump or the coup attempt (about 1/4th of the party). The GOP already only wins by razor thin margins, if even 2% of their base defects to Libertarian or something they're screwed.

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/01/15/in-their-own-words-how-americans-reacted-to-the-rioting-at-the-u-s-capitol/

That's what makes their tyrannical minority plan so much of a threat given the level of voter fraud they'll resort to.
cnn.com/2021/01/29/politics/mail-in-voting-restrictions-georgia-arizona/index.html
Also, they're just going to gerrymander harder now.

Is this survey saying not one person surveyed supported the event? It only seems to have recorded negative responses

>Democrat's fault/reasons were justified
5% of respondents chose this.

did they storm a courthouse while the proceeding was taking place? lets ignore that a democratic process and legal process are two different things, for now

I don't know why they combined those two responses into one category

Worse, they acted as a lynch mob and wreaked havoc across the country before it was even determined if the officers were guilty or not.

Of coarse they are saying that. The plan failed. I bet their opinions would be different if they had succeed. They are disingenuous as a strategy.

It's not whataboutism. You said
>If a liberal staged a violent coup, you'd know the democrats would vote to convict.
Well CHAZ was a violent coup, actual sedition from the United States. Name one Democrat who wanted convictions for these traitors. Because I can find plenty of Democrats who downplayed or even excused this behavior as a peaceful "summer of love" event.

>A coup d'état (/ˌkuː deJˈtɑː/ About this soundlisten (help·info); French: [ku deta] "blow of state") or coup[1] is the removal and seizure of a government and its powers. Typically, it is an illegal, unconstitutional seizure of power by a political faction, the military, or a dictator.[2]

CHAZ was not in any way a coup you retard. Sedition and seperatism sure, but not a coup.

> the removal and seizure of a government and its powers
The police is a branch of government authority and they drove out the police and took over the station.

Same applies to a federal courthouse, and city hall.

I didn't know you could overthrow a government by taking over a police station.
Unless you're a local fascist state. Point still stands that you're just a hell of a false equivalency to defend Trump's coup.

Okay? The cops still aren't the government.
Never happened.

You end their ability to govern you when you depose their law enforcement. They held the station for several days and during that time declared themselves in charge of their own social policies and law, until they let a few murders occur and the state used the necessary pressure to end it.

>The cops still aren't the government.
They're part of the government, they're public servants. So yes, they are.

>Sedition and seperatism sure, but not a coup.
"I may have committed some light... treason"- Dems

>Never happened.
There was no ~3 month seige of a Federal Courthouse? Protesters did not seize the Seattle City Hall?

Been that way since 9/11. I personally blame Florida in my grand conspiracy theory. It always goes back to them.

So much commendation
>The CHAZ's size decreased four days later (when roadblocks were moved),[38] and it continued to shrink after shootings in or near the zone on June 20, 21, and 23.[39][40][41][42]
Lol

>CHAZ was not in any way a coup you retard. Sedition and seperatism sure, but not a coup.
And yet not condemned by your side
>CHAZ organizers expressed their intention to refocus on the area near the police station and away from the sprawling encampment at Cal Anderson Park after it became a political liability and they struggled to maintain security.[48] In the early morning of June 29, a fourth shooting left a 16-year-old boy dead and a 14-year-old boy in critical condition with gunshot wounds.[49][50][51][52]

Lololol
>Crime in the area from June 2 to June 30 rose 525 percent over the same period in 2019. In addition to two homicides and two non-fatal shootings, the increase included narcotics use, violent crimes (such as rape, robbery, and assault) and increased gang activity.[

The US is too deranged for sane people to comprehend. Impeaching a president who's no longer in office is the definition of insanity, always was. It should never have even gotten this far, and the fact it did is a testimony how rabidly insane the Democrat are for pushing it.

Still not a coup. Still a false equivalency.

When the GOP started pushing the false narrative that he couldn't be tried in the Senate (he WAS IMPEACHED ON 1/13 and forever remains impeached twice) after he left office, the Dems should have called their bluff and said, "Fine, we'll turn it over to the US Attorney General to prosecute him, then." Not only would the GOP's heads have exploded, but it would have resulted in a non-partisan jury trial where instead of 43 frightened little mousey gutless wonders guaranteed to acquit, you would have had a jury that would have easily found him guilty.

What the brainwashed leftoids are really guilty of is the good old fashion cherry picking fallacy.

You are supposed to take Trump literally when he says "fight", but not take him seriously when he says to protest "Peacefully and patriotically". They then engage in dishonest mental gymnastics to try and explain why they cherrypick what parts of Trumps words they want to believe are true.

The media has these retards so brainwashed they have completely lost all grip on basic logic and reasoning skills. Huffpost could post an article titled "Math is racist here are 10 experts who agree that 2+2=5" and these thundering faggots would scream "2+2=5 TRUST DA EXPERTS YOU FUCKING WHITE SUPREMACISTS!!!"

If I tell someone I'm going to stab them but then add that I'll do it "peacefully and patriotically", does that make it not a threat?

We must not underestimate the low intelligence of Americans, where 60% of adults believe in Creationism (pseudoscience) rather than evolution theory. Trump is just a symbol of arrogant, selfish, and poorly foresighted Americans.
His supporters, who are easily deceived by conspiracy theories and fake, are victims of inadequate low-level education.
What they need is not punishment, exclusion, criticism or neglect, i.e., hatred, but media/science literacy, logical thinking, problem-solving ability, treatment of delusional personality disorder by psychotherapy/counseling, i.e., love.
Thanks to political amateur Trump administration, the USA had been ridiculed from all over the world, and its international credibility, leadership, and persuasiveness have been lost. Now is the time to make America great again.in real

"Emotions Self-Responsibility Theory"

Stop arguing with strawmanning idiots.

Reminds me when Democrats declared treason and terrorism is constitutional by acquitting the Violent Antifa for their failed coup.
They won't eliminate and decriminalize drug charges for black people or give them money, but if you're a violent white person destroying public property hey you're free to go, wealthy people don't need to pay the poor tax. If anything black people should say they're south of the border and then they wouldn't get harassed by cops anymore lol.

>On Saturday morning, however, McConnell told colleagues that while it was “a close call,” he would vote to acquit Trump because he believed the Senate lacked jurisdiction. Notably, McConnell was majority leader at the time of the House impeachment vote, but signaled that he would not begin a trial while Trump remained in office.

Honestly this is the part of this whole impeachment that bugs me the most.

So to you, a coup happens when law enforcement leaves an area, ignoring the fact that the cops left on their own accord and it wasn't stormed suddenly or violently, let alone it's not the heart of the government.
As opposed to when a group of terrorists storm the capitol to stop the peaceful transfer of power and assassinate high ranking officials to install a dictator.
Got any more straws to grasp?

It just shows Impeachment is broken as long as it's a Republican who is charged because of how openly corrupt and traitorous they are.

Here's a solid article explaining the problems with the Republicans.
huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-impeachment-acquit_n_6027e114c5b6f88289fbfc0f

>Here's a solid article
>huffpost
Lmao

I'll have things that never happened but white supremacists say happened for $2000, Alex.

>and forever remains impeached twice
Now this is cope.

>I didn't know you could overthrow a government by taking over a police station.
I didn't know you could overthrow a government by protesting inside it's capitol.

... No seriously, anytime I ask what the actual plan was for a coup I get nothing from Dab Forums besides they were planning on kidnapping/taking hostage some congressmen (by slowly pushing into the building holding protest signs and immediately falling back after one woman got shot).... and then?

Because its their talking point. A couple weeks ago it was "insurrection! insurrection!" until they finally realized that CHAZ = insurrection as well, so they changed it to "coup! coup!".

Are you going to prove you're arguing in bad faith by ignoring what was going on in the capitol and the objectives of the terrorists?

rawstory.com/trump-criminal-investigation-2650530309/
Trump sweating that he'll be charged for his treason in criminal court.

>ignoring what was going on in the capitol
Selfies and peacefully following the velvet rope?

>has already been acquitted
>surely this time we'll get him tho!
This dude isn't even in office and yet he still keeps handing L's to the left lmao

>>Chicago vs Chicago Police

Shooter Total Shot % of Total
Community 4,160 99.7%
On-duty CPD 14 0.3%
As of 1/1/21

>ignoring the fact that the cops left on their own accord
Were ordered to leave.

So what was their objective and how were they going to achieve it? Because last time I checked Dab Forums the FBI couldn't find any actual coup plan outside of some Dab Forumstards shitting up fagbook, and if you take them seriously then I have a bridge to sell you.

>Selfies and peacefully following the velvet rope?
Just ignoring everything else that the coup did?

>Implying we know everything in an ongoing criminal investigation.

>just Republicans are patriots and would rather follow the constitution.
Like when we have elections, the states need to follow their own constitution as well as the US Constitution. What part of “shall not be infringed” do you have trouble understanding?

>>Implying we know everything in an ongoing criminal investigation.
LMAO, Russiahoaxgate all over again

You're infringing on the rights of 82 million Americans and the rule of law.

>Russia
You mean the one where Mueller found the Trump campaign did conspire with the Russians and Trump obstructed justice 10 times?
Good call, he can be prosecuted for that now too since he no longer is protected by the office of the presidency.

They did, Trump tried to steal the election 60 times in court and lost.

>You mean the one where Mueller found the Trump campaign did conspire with the Russians and Trump obstructed justice 10 times?
BIG IF TRUE! Which page of the report?

This is actually a good thing though. Trump being able to run again means more division in the Right.

justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
Right here.

page?

And also the exact quote that you're referencing?

Come on user, lets at least try to maintain middle school levels of citation standards

Section D, you can read several pages user. Unless you want to prove this is just you acting in bad faith.

>Unless you want to prove this is just you acting in bad faith.
The only person doing that right now is you.

Provide specific examples and page numbers or you concede the debate.

>And also the exact quote that you're referencing?
You dont know how greentext works? First day on 4chinz?

>user says "bad faith"
>you start overusing "bad faith"

Section D? The most redacted part of the entire report?

desperate.

So you admit you're both acting in bad faith.
As expected.

Why bother arguing if you are going to do this?

>Provide specific examples and page numbers or you concede the debate.
LMAO holy shit go wash the sweat and grease out of your fedora I can smell it from here.

Imagine being this retarded...

>make specific claims
>get asked to provide evidence for those claims
>refuse
Thats defeat.

>You dont know how greentext works? First day on 4chinz?
The quote in the report he claims proves his point.

>>user says "bad faith"
>you start overusing "bad faith"
Mimicry is a usual tactic of a propagandist, it helps them appear to be someone who belongs here.

What part of section D, which is again heavily redacted, are you referencing, Mr Bad Faith projection?

Why have a debate with someone who's going to be acting in bad faith?
And the project by going NO U when you're correctly called out?

Whats the point of acting like this? Its completely ineffective on Westerners.

Thank you for conceding and admitting you lied, unfortunately you still will never be a real woman

tomeasuremyabilities.jpg

If you weren't going to act in bad faith we could have debated the merit of the report and if Biden should both release the uncensored version and if another special prosecutor needs to be appointed.
But you weren't.

>make specific claim
>get asked for specific evidence of that claim
>refuse
>get called out
>use new word: Bad-faith
It doesnt work on Westerners.

Wrong, the evidence was presented and you rejected it.

>we could have debated the merit of the report and if Biden should both release the uncensored version and if another special prosecutor needs to be appointed

Actually we were about to debunk your baseless Russiahoax conspiracy theory, again, until you got outed as a propagandist and started peddling copium.

>f you weren't going to act in bad faith
>But you weren't.
You need a few more English lessons, Chang

Except you didn't debunk it.

>Implying 'Were not' is incorrect
Nice try Ivan, it all makes sense why you're carrying water for Trump and spamming hoax.

Kind of like cnn “firey but peaceful protests”

>the evidence was presented and you rejected it.
Specific claims require specific citations. You linked the entire report. This is freshman shit, back up your claims or take the L.

>the evidence
Where? Which blacked out & redacted line of text are you referencing in Section D?

Already linked to it, send your complaints to Trump for censoring the report.

Behaving like a child doesnt change minds or win arguments. You made specific claims, please show me specifically where in the Report they are made.

>Except you didn't debunk it.
Yes we did.

>>Implying 'Were not' is incorrect
In this context, it is. You created a double negative
"If you weren't doing x... but you weren't." It doesn't follow.

> and spamming hoax
Hoaxes*. Again, take more English lessons Chang.

>send your complaints to Trump for censoring the report.
So how do you know whats in the report if what you're referencing in the report is censored and redacted?

Clam was proven, you're just upset with the proof and are now nitpicking.
This confirms you're acting in bad faith.

Why would Trump censor a report about his campaign conspiring with the Russians unless he's covering up something? Especially when the part that isn't censored is his people having a secret meeting with the Russians at his property?

>constantly trying to pivot
It. does. not. work. on. Westerners.

Can you cite, specifically in the report, where you found the evidence for your claims? Yes or no.

WINNING !!!!

>whataboutism
>bad faith!
>projection
You're absolutely dogshit at this

You can keep claiming you're from the west, no one who's rational believes it.
Again, the fact you refuse to look at the evidence shows you're again acting in bad faith.

>Clam was proven
Where? Still waiting on your specific example from the heavily redacted text you claim to have read yourself.

>Calling out all the dishonest tactics used is bad.
What sort of person would make this claim?

>Again, the fact you refuse to look at the evidence shows you're again acting in bad faith.
I want to look at the evidence, thats why I keep asking for you to show it to me.

Can you please show me the evidence?

And there we go, more mimicry.

I bet this user aint even cornshod a hotdog through a bobsled, and he thinks he's a westerner LOL

>And there we go, more mimicry.
Its fucking ridiculous.

Many courts ignored the evidence, including and especially scotus. They were afraid if they opened that Pandora’s box and exposed all of the voter fraud, the large cities would burn and the riots of the summer were just a dress rehearsal.

You have to go back, ledditor.

Clutch those pearls, sissy!

Dab Forums, bunker, & omnilibs BTFO eternally!

Imagine $2+ billion in damages to democratic cities that your summer of love sing alongs were responsible for.

>Many courts ignored the evidence, including and especially scotus.
BIG fucking cope, user. Wew.

>They were afraid if they opened that Pandora’s box and exposed all of the voter fraud, the large cities would burn and the riots of the summer were just a dress rehearsal.
"Trump's lawyers failing in court and losing bigly is the BLM rioter's fault" is by far the funniest thing I've heard all day.

They didn't ignore evidence, Trump's lawyers just didn't present any (because there is none).

The Quaken wench has some of it and Ghouliani spilled a fifth of Scotch on his so it has to dry out unless he accidentally sets fire to it when he passes out with a lit cigar.

Funny how investigating voter fraud (even when we've had small examples of ballots being tossed or hidden) is wasting time and money, conservatives just need to accept the election results and move on. Yet on the other hand we've wasted how much time and money on Russians hacked the election in 2016 and we still haven't moved on from this?

Double standards much?

Already showed the evidence, you're just refusing to accept it.

Because it was and it was based on a clear lie Trump told to damage control him losing the popular vote.
apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d

>Hacked election
This is also a lie pushed by Republicans given the issue was Russian meddling, not hacking. Although the Russians did successfully breach the voter rolls of multiple states.

What evidence?

>Yet on the other hand we've wasted how much time and money on Russians hacked the election in 2016 and we still haven't moved on from this?
The Mueller report concluded Russian Intelligence orchestrated and implemented a campaign across multiple platforms to influence the 2016 election in support of Trump and to discredit Clinton. US intelligence agencies concluded the same as well as the bipartisan Senate intelligence Committee chaired by a Republican. Mueller couldn't prove Trump conspired with them due to the fact Trump obstructed justice during the investigation 10 times. However, a number of Russian agents, some of whom met with Don Jr., Ghouliani and others in his administration were charged with crimes.

The affidavits that said a guy in a BLM shirt was being mean to people three blocks from a polling place.

Hillary conceded the day after the 2016 election.

Trump refused to concede the 2020 election, went to court over 60 times to argue his fraud allegations, and tried to strongarm election officials into handing the win to him. When all that failed he called on a mob of his supporters to march on the capitol building on the day of the election certification in a desperate bid to stop the process and hold onto power. Only after that failed too did he finally concede, 3 months after the election. Trump has repeatedly alleged fraud in other elections too - he claimed Romney was the real winner in 2012, that Cruz cheated to win Iowa in the 2016 primary season, that he actually won the popular vote in the 2016 general, and that congressional races Republicans lost in the 2018 midterms were fraudulent. In the runup to 2020 he said the only way he could lose would be fraud and for the first time in American history refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. His refusal to accept defeat was planned from the start, he couldn't give less of a shit about actual electoral process.

Double standards much?

>What evidence?
One claimed evidence of fraud seems substantial: the implausibility of very low "rejection-rates" of mail-in ballots occurring only in the most Democrat/urban districts of swing states. It is apparently normal, in prior years and also in rural and suburban districts in 2020, for about 3% to 15% of mail-in ballots to be rejected for errors (failure to sign or to mark legibly, correctly or lawfully). In 2020, only, urban Democrat districts in swing states reportedly had "rejection rates" of only about 0.5% or lower.

There is no plausible explanation (other than fraud). It is not believable that somehow inner-city Democrat voters were so much more meticulous and accurate in their mail-in voting forms than voters in other parts of those states --- six to 30 times more accurate. (With inner-city districts' lower literacy and education-level on average, if honestly filled-in and collected, the errors and the rejection-rate would likely be higher, not lower.) This mysterious accuracy-gap is virtually a statistical impossibility. Evidently someone other than the voters filled in those mail-in ballots.

Proving this in court would prove that thousands of mail-in votes were fraudulent or otherwise unlawful votes. It's unclear whether the number differences would have been enough to re-elect Trump. This or other genuine fraud would need to switch three or four key states from Biden to Trump. That may have happened, but it hasn't been proven. Except for a conceivable but improbable "Quo Warranto" court action, it's too late now to make any difference.

I would seriously ask for a refund on that liberal arts gender studies degree. It’s nobody else’s fault that you have the reading comprehension equivalence of a third grader.

So the only evidence is 'We don't like these numbers because we lost, but don't have proof, so it's fraud'

Of course Russia always tries to influence elections just a America does. It's normal. So what? America successfully influenced Italiam elections for 50 years, to keep the Communists down. It tries to influence elections all over Central and South America. Again, so what? It's normal. There is no legitimate "scandal" of attempted Russian influence in 2016 0r in 2020. They'll always try, and so will any powerful country, like the USA too.

>Trump refused to concede the 2020 election, went to court over 60 times to argue his fraud allegations, and tried to strongarm election officials into handing the win to him. When all that failed he called on a mob of his supporters to march on the capitol building on the day of the election certification in a desperate bid to stop the process and hold onto power. Only after that failed too did he finally concede, 3 months after the election.

Mostly true, but that doesn't alter the fact that there was messive election fraud in Democrat districts of the swing states. Trump and his lawyers lacked the resources to prove it in court in time, but it certainly occurred. Whether the fraud was large enough to change the result in enough states to elect Trump, is currently unknown. It will require careful study to determine.

Hereistheevidence.com

>the DNC committing sabotage of Bernie and other candidates TWICE so they can have their old guard puppets hillary and biden in office
>saying the blm riots are important and even necessary during a fucking global pandemic because "racism is worse," calls them mostly peaceful lol
>Biden's decades of sketchiness
>The silencing of Hunter Biden critiques like from Glenn Greenwald
>Biden's dealings with Obama for project prism, the biggest moral fuckup of tyrannical surveillance of all time
>"Who built the cages, Joe?"

You serious negro? Both sides are garbage and have done things to justify impeachment.

Damn, someone should've sent that link to Trump's lawyers, if only they had known..

Oh wait, it wouldn't have changed anything because all of this "evidence" is either fabricated or misrepresented and none of it would hold up in court. Trump's lawyers knew about all of this and chose not to present the "evidence" because they don't want to be held in contempt of court, charged with perjury, or risk being disbarred.

It's pretty fun to watch to be honest.

These senators who votes twice to acquit this guy despite clear, obvious guilt had said that if they nominated Trump, he would ruin them and they would deserve it. Now they're completely enthralled to him and they have to give him a pass no matter what he does lol

In just four or five years, the GOP became the party of Trump, organized around and loyal to a single individual. Let's see THAT platform win on a national level.

>Whataboutisms
>Again
Like a broken record.

>Oh wait, it wouldn't have changed anything because all of this "evidence" is either fabricated or misrepresented and none of it would hold up in court. Trump's lawyers knew about all of this and chose not to present the "evidence" because they don't want to be held in contempt of court, charged with perjury, or risk being disbarred.
Or, had you been following THE FUCKING NEWS you would have known that Trump through his mouthpeice Bannon was threatening to make the trial about election fraud and then McCarthy flew down to Mar-a-lago to cut a deal
>argue procedure
>we guarantee you wont be convicted

>I may be critical of thee, but no you of me!
>te-he-he-he
Keep screaming "whataboutism!" I am sure its super persuasive and is changing many minds.

Damn, he did that do that for all 60 of the election fraud lawsuits Trump's team filed and then failed to prove in court too?

Trump didnt file 60 lawsuits. He filed 4. You obviously dont read the fucking news, so why are you here?

>that Cruz cheated to win Iowa in the 2016 primary season
This might actually have some truth to it. I lived in a rural area during the 2016 primary and my employer was pretty political. He played a big part in getting our state representative elected. Trump easily won the primary, but they were caught trying to give Cruz the county win. They disguised it saying it was The Patriot Coalition, not Cruz. There is absolutely no reason to have a primary, as the party selects who will run and can ignore the people if they wish. Ask Bernie how this works.

Iowa doesn't have primaries they have caucuses. I know there are differences because a primary is simply casting a vote for candidates from one party or the other. Idk how caucuses work, but I know they are fundamentally different.

Iowa is fucking retarded. There is almost always a scandal there.

nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-s-election-fight-includes-over-30-lawsuits-it-s-n1248289
usatoday.com/in-depth/news/politics/elections/2021/01/06/trumps-failed-efforts-overturn-election-numbers/4130307001/
apnews.com/article/donald-trump-losing-election-lawsuits-36d113484ac0946fa5f0614deb7de15e

>b... but my headlines!
Trumps legal team, headed by Rudy, filed 4 (four) lawsuits. They retracted one, lost 2 and have 1 pending.

>After the 2020 United States presidential election, the campaign for incumbent President Donald Trump and others filed and lost 86 lawsuits[1][2][3][4][5][6] contesting election processes, vote counting, and the vote certification process in multiple states, including Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.[7]

Nearly all the suits were dismissed or dropped due to lack of evidence;[8] judges, lawyers, and other observers described the suits as "frivolous"[9] and "without merit".[10] In one instance, the Trump campaign and other groups seeking his reelection collectively lost multiple cases in six states on a single day.[11] Only one ruling was initially in Trump's favor: the timing within which first-time Pennsylvania voters must provide proper identification if they wanted to “cure” their ballots. This ruling affected very few votes,[2] and it was later overturned by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.[12]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election

>and others
words have meaning.

>Oh no, no, no, not facts to BTFO of my false narrative, whatever shall I do? Heh, heh, I know, when my argument is proven false just double down!
The eternal cultist.

>my false narrative
t. Guy conflating every lawsuit related to the election with the lawsuits filed by Trump.

>Nearly all the suits were dismissed or dropped due to lack of evidence;[8] judges, lawyers, and other observers described the suits as "frivolous"[9] and "without merit".
They certainly do magat!

>and
>others

In just the first few pages I counted 8 filed by Trump or his campaign and this was only current as of 12/10. I dkn't need to go further because it already BTFO of your 4.

>inb4 b-but Trump's campaign is not Trump
No, that weasel won't whistle, magat.

nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1248289

Present a compelling argument to defend Trump's failed coup that isn't a whataboutism first.

>from 60 to 8

>first few pages
You go ahead and tally them all, cultist, I doubled your 4 in just the first few pages. Like your Dear Leader, you have no credibility.

Who gives a shit whether the lawsuits were filed by Trump himself or one of his millions of cult followers. The point is none of them have been able to prove shit in court despite the supposedly abundant evidence - because there is no evidence.

>not understanding how congress works

>Conservatives unironically think everyone more educated than them has a useless gender studies degree from some podunk degree mill college
You would think that simply a quick look at the numbers of those attending colleges would dissuade them of this notion, but of course they have no understanding of statistics so the knowledge, even if it were handed to them, would unfortunately be meaningless gibberish

Truly, our education system in this country should be everyone's number one priority.

>Ignoring that just a few hours ago, you were saying there were no more than 4
4 doubled to 8 very fast there without you acknowledging it
And that's with you trying to weasel out of the other dozens by claiming that because Trump's team filed them and not Trump himself, they don't count.
Even though to anyone with a non-weasel brain, it's very obvious that Trump's lawyers are working at his behest and all the cases, of which there were 60+, were stemming from him losing and not being able to accept it.
60+ cases
1 win that was then overturned
And to add insult to injury, a number of those cases were presided over by conservative justices that Trump picked. They did their job impartially and kicked his lawyers out. So you can get rid of any notions that the "rigged courts" conspired with all the other riggers to keep Trump from winning: his own people said
>Sorry bud, you lost this one fair and square

Poor Shareblue. Any day now his handlers are going to find out his shit posting is not working, and he'll have to go back to door dash.

They should change their name to rent free blue, because that's how they're living in your head.

Not him but what's wrong with huffpost? I'm just curious.

Usually the same thing that's wrong with Breitbart, just from the other direction.

Though they don't have the same disclaimer on their website, as they *occasionally* do actual journalism, but not very often, and never without a specific goal. The site rules don't care about bias, but it does have to be actual journalism, and not an opinion piece - though that only applies to OP.

Most importantly, they aren't a news reporting agency. Most of their work has no reporters in the traditional sense of the term, and have only done a handful of actual stories themselves. They're a news "aggregator". They don't follow traditional rules about confirmation and sourcing the way the more prestigious places do.

Lets look at the specific article user posted. Serious news agencies have a hard line between op ed and news reporting. Even places with a hard editorial slant, you want a clean difference between your opinions. You want every fact you put into the paper to be attributable to a source. If the source is the REPORTER on the scene, or the reporter going through pictures, they need to state that explicitly. Check any story on the front page of the NY times for comparison. They have a very tilted editorial board on this story, but very strong traditional journalistic practices.

For an even starker comparison, compare the "reporting" here with something on the same topic from AP or reuters..

Ironically enough andrew breitbart was critical in founding both.

>Ironically enough andrew breitbart was critical in founding both.
Some men really do just want to watch the world burn, at least so long as they can make a more just world for themselves in their own eyes in the process.

Too many people coming into too much cash and power, too quickly, without being raised with any sense of responsibility for the grander consequences. Replace them with poor people, and you get similar results for similar reasons, but at least they all naturally cycle in and out over time...

Or would, if not for the culture of "win at all costs" encouraging them, which is sadly not something that can be fixed by politics driven by the same mentality.

>Some men really do just want to watch the world burn, at least so long as they can make a more just world for themselves in their own eyes in the process.

I would agree with half of that. Breitbart wanted to watch the world burn AND pee on a burning world, but his ideology was about how the people in traditional news shouldn't be the gatekeepers to everything in the news. That meant distributing power, even to people he ideologically hated, and hated him.

He also had more journalistic integrity than the people who followed him at both hufpo and breitbart.

>Or would, if not for the culture of "win at all costs" encouraging them, which is sadly not something that can be fixed by politics driven by the same mentality.

"Politics is downstream of culture".

Fair point. Think I need to read a biography of this beast of a man. Might be interesting.

I don't know of any good ones. It's all nonstop shitblogging. Which seems ironically fitting, considering the number of obituaries the man personally shat upon.

like benidick arnie
manchurian candidate 5th columnist traitor child raping tRump's name will go down in INFAMY!!!!!

he's a very bad man

>Huffington Post and Brietbart are the same.
The Breitbart is a lot more apologetically partisan and willing to lie to push their agenda.
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Come on bitch nigga. Can't you fucking read. Hufpo and Breitbart have the same TYPE of problems.

They were founded in part by the SAME DUDE, who had the many of the SAME basic concepts in setting up their editorial room.

And of course, you try pushing a chart YEARS old.
Check the difference between that and the current version.
adfontesmedia.com/

I'm not even sure if you can read the fucking source you're quoting. Are you even trying?

Slightly, both are the sort of partisan cancer that's killing the nation though.

I kinda wonder if this is another case of the "curse of the evangelical", where someone tries to do good, creating a mechanism through which men can better free themselves, and instead make a prison. Poor Anno.

In this case, I think that downstream is more of a loop, new blood tends to take the old blood's propaganda to new extremes they previous generation never dreamed of.

That's going to be updated after the aggregates over all the Big Lie articles get put into account.

>They're the same.
Except it's a false equivalency birthed from the flawed idea that if the right wing does something awful. There has to be something equally bad by the left for 'balance', Which is clearly not the case.
Example is how people try and claim Fox News and MSNBC are the same, where Fox News is now being sued for billions of dollars in defamation from groups they slandered on their network specifically to help Trump. And it's got enough weight to it that Fox already fired one of their anchors over it. Or the fact that Fox News actively shilled for Trump and the Republicans to the point they set up campaign events for them (Remember the Tea Party?) This both sides argument doesn't pass the smell test.

buzzfeednews.com/article/buzzfeedpolitics/how-andrew-breitbart-helped-launch-huffington-post
From the looks of it Breitbart pushed hard for Huntington Post to be a middle of the blog site and act as an ally to the Drudge Report in their war against the media. Although it was more he was an 'idea' man for them to work off of, and it was for blogging and general stuff, not reporting.

Also it's not like they don't do their own reporting. They just came out with a piece tracking all Republican officials who actively took part in Trump's insurrection.
huffpost.com/entry/57-gop-officials-at-capitol-insurrection_n_6026e5e2c5b6f88289fb90a6

We must not underestimate the low intelligence of Americans, where 60% of adults believe in Creationism (pseudoscience) rather than evolution theory. Trump is just a symbol of arrogant, selfish, and poorly foresighted Americans.
His supporters, who are easily deceived by conspiracy theories and fake, are victims of inadequate low-level education.
What they need is not punishment, exclusion, criticism or neglect, i.e., hatred, but media/science literacy, logical thinking, problem-solving ability, treatment of delusional personality disorder by psychotherapy/counseling, i.e., love.
Thanks to political amateur Trump administration, the USA had been ridiculed from all over the world, and its international credibility, leadership, and persuasiveness have been lost. Now is the time to make America great again.in real

"Emotions Self-Responsibility Theory"

Different levels of desperation, same bullshit ideology. They'll each get worse over time, left to their own devices.

They love it when they reduce people to flesh bots like that one (). Imprisoning everyone in earshot into their own little boxes from which no light can enter, and only darkness escapes.

Dunno if we can ever get some revamped variant of equal time or the fairness doctrine, but I suspect the genie can't be put back in the bottle, and even if it eventually results in the collapse of the nation and a civil war, I suspect we won't learn anything from it, though we will be under external management, who may or may not know better.

I would say more the curse of the revolutionary.

When he was part of the normal news industry, he felt that too often, good stories of interest to readers with strong evidence and confirmation were being spiked or downplayed because of the ideology, personal biases, or personal interests/relations of the chief editors. And that good, important stories from local nobody reporters were being ignored. And that firsthand accounts from randos on the scene in the form of blogs were potentially valuable sources of information to reporters or maybe even AS reporters.

The dude WANTED to be the biggest asshole on the planet, as he felt that was the role of journalism. Having too good of a relation with the government you're supposed to watchdog meant you're not doing your job properly.

I hated the hell out of the dude, but it turns out he was frequently right about the direction of the internet on news.

>Slightly, both are the sort of partisan cancer that's killing the nation though.
Under the breitbart doctrine, he held that the partisian cancer is inherent in the nature of the future of the internet. The destruction of central common grounds of information is a natural result of more voices at the table, more perspectives. More insular bubbles are a natural outcome of this. For us to stay together as a nation, we need to actively DECIDE to put aside the very truth we take for granted sometimes, in order to reach out to others, to agree on ideals we care about more. The alternative, being even worse.

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You can't even handle ONE sentence without driving it into a tree. SAME TYPE is not EQUAL. Unless you get your shit together, you're not worth the >you.

Yes. HP actually sometimes does reporting, although that article is a particularly low quality one. You can compare it to similar stories from better news orgs. Most of the shit there is from social media and collated from people emailing them things. I can go into detail on exactly what makes it relatively low quality if you're having difficulty.

One of the proposed ideas, I don't remember who it was, I don't think this one was Breitbart was to have a "virtual fairness doctrine", where you'd see JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE YOU HAIRTRIGGERED NINCOMPOOPS, NOT MAKING CLAIMS ABOUT EQUALITY, the Fox News version of a story RIGHT NEXT TO the CNN version of the story, and possibly have a rebuttal from each news org at the end of the other.

>Still trying to push the false equivalency
Can't push that, especially after the lead up to and coup attempt.

A fairness doctrine would help, keep in mind the original fairness doctrine was that networks reserve an hour of prime time towards the public good and trust (Straight reporting news) And if the owner of the network ran an opinion piece, they must run a counter opinion. This wouldn't affect a lot of networks, but it would totally buttfuck sinclair broadcasting who are known for forcing their local affiliates to run propaganda pieces.

>Can't push that, especially after the lead up to and coup attempt.
You're so obsessed with that that it's impairing your ability to discuss and analyze news reporting.

>fairness doctrine
What would a modern fairness doctrine even look like today? I'm skeptical becauese we have enough trouble even separating op ed from news.

It could have just as easily been the Democrats, and as the right loves to point out, they were pretty kind to the rioters. The only reason the Democrats haven't slipped into that same seditious boat is a slightly more advantageous position allowing them to keep their internal sanity checks against Hollywood popularity gone awry in place, but when push comes to shove, they are still entirely willing to disenfranchise and enrage any portion of the nation that doesn't support them, just for the sake of painting a third of the electorate as inhuman monsters, to which most men so accused will happily arise to the call. They are just as unable to see beyond the rhetoric and the numbers to the people behind them as the GOP, and if you aren't for them, you're against them. Domination and power are the only goals of either party, and they both attack people, more than they do policy. They are both heading down the same dark road, towards the same cliff, even if the right is a little ahead in that suicidal race, at the moment.

Biden was once one of the few remaining sensible old guard they had, capable of seeing the bigger picture, and indeed pleaded against the first Impeachment, but now he's too old to keep a lid on that blind hate, and is basically playing the part of the corpse at Weekend at Bernie's.

>Can't refute the facts
>Ignoring how the fairness doctrine was originally implemented.

My mistake. I thought you had something meaningful to say on the topic. Or even cogent. At least your historical trivia is a break from the pure shitposting. Carry on.

Why are you talking about yourself? It's a good confession though.

And with that
>no u
I guess it’s back to full shitposting.

>I guess it’s back to full shitposting.
That's what you've been doing.

It’s not just the two of them. It’s the entire industry. The news biz is based on ratings. Not accuracy. Trust in news has been plummeting. Inverted pyramid head may blame it on his favorite boogeyman, but it’s been plummeting across the political spectrum. Even the big agencies are screwing up, being faster and less careful because that’s what the audiences want.

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This is why we need the fairness doctrine back.
News wasn't supposed to be for profit.
Take out the profit motive and punish any network that intentionally spreads misinformation, I.E. the Big Lie, by pulling their broadcast license, and you'll see shit get cleaned up quickly.

Of course we'll need judicial reform for the supreme court first since they'll just claim they have the right to lie and incite the public under the first amendment.

What? News has been for profit for the entire existence of the nation.

As far as the other two, broadcast licenses are becoming irrelevant with the internet. And your solution? Having the government decide what’s true and what’s not?

Did you forget that trump was in charge of the FCC 3 months ago?

Wrong.
mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1044/communications-act-of-1934
It should be noted, it was the free market fags that caused this mess.

Original guy who asked, thanks for the info I guess. I'm responding to most of the stuff from this whole comment chain (so far) too.

There is very little chance that the Modern Democratic party would be turned into a cult like the Republicans. Mainly because they aren't conservatives, which naturally gravitate towards strongmen, authoritarianism, and undermining America. (Torries, Confederates, Nazis, oh my)
There isn't anyone comparable at all to Trump on the left either, both in terms of blind loyalty or cruelty.
>But Obama!
His coalition collapsed almost immediately because he went hard right wing after the election and told the giant infrastructure he built up to all fuck off. Which is the big reason democrats got BTFO in the midterms. The democrats platform for 2012 wasn't blank except to say they do whatever Obama wanted either, like what the Republicans did with Trump.

>There is very little chance that the Modern Democratic party would be turned into a cult
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So we reached the "I'm going to pretend to be retarded so I don't have to address your point" portion of the debate.

The Modern Democratic party is already a cult, there's no sense reasonably addressing your point because your point is evidence that you're part of the cult.

So, the only recourse is to laugh at you.

>There is very little chance that the Modern Democratic party would be turned into a cult like the Republicans.
user, we all remember the Obama years. There are people who unironically say his biggest scandal was "wearing a tan suit"

>Republicans dont have a platform
You not knowing the Republican platform is not the same as Republicans not having a platform.

>The Modern democratic party is already a cult
Laughable. The modern democratic party is a loose collection of default axiomatic values that naturally occur in places that aren't homogeneous conservative hell holes. If you're a human being between the ages of 18 and 55 and live in a major metropolitan city your default political leaning is going to democrat if for no other reason than the fact that you went to school where all the pages on evolution weren't ripped out of your textbook. Another good portion of democrats simply vote dem out of disgust with the republicans. As far as unhinged hero worship goes the democrat party doesn't and most likely won't ever come close to the absolute fanatical obsession that conservatives have with their exalted leaders. Hit us back up when democrats start airbrushing Joe Biden riding a tiger on the side of their double-wides, organizing Joe Biden boat parades and spending their whole life savings to replace their wardrobe with official Joe Biden merch. This "n-no, y-you're a cult!" cope is fucking hilarious.

>Laughable.
>proceed to rattle off endless leftist strawmen and propaganda most commonly referred to as leftist cultism
Ironic.

And you're right, it is laughable- because it's true.

Unfortunately for you, being too smart to be a conservative is not a cult. Its just called basic human development and having access to things like, you know, books. Keep up the cope, cultist. We know you're all desperate to live in a world where Democrats are as fucking cringey as Trump fanatics have been the past four years but it just isn't happening. Sorry, sweaty. Maybe next time.

>this absolutely assblasted reply
kek

>all this assblasted lefty-cultist rhetoric
>"I'm not in a cult, you are! I'm too smart for that!"
You're exactly the kind of person cults prey on user. Hence why you're in one.

>user, we all remember the Obama years

You obviously don't. Obama took a shitload of heat from the Center left and left for being far too moderate.

You let us know when a Democrat who criticizes Biden starts getting death threats from other Democrats. Point out when Biden not only attempts to overthrow a legally certified election and establish himself as US King for Life, but also utterly destroys the US economy, causes close to half a million unnecessary deaths due to criminal negligence in handling a pandemic, withdraws entirely from international affairs allowing Russia and China to fill the void, ignores US intelligence information on Russia stating, "I asked Vlad and he said he dindu nuffin' and I believe him," engages in wholesale racketeering and total corruption on the order of a mafia kingpin, has a microchode for a "penis" according to his many whores, and on and on, yet still receives 70% support from his base of cultist zombies.

Won't happen among Democrats because they have *gasp* education and apply reason, logic and critical analysis to situations. Magat cultists oth, salivate at the thought of having a God Emperor who no matter how much he fucks them over still deserves to be worshipped.

They're not going to engaging in over the facts, it's just a bunch of fascist apologists who are desperate to create a false equivalencies.

>all these chang talking points
lol

There is definitely a chang or two on here no doubt, but that's just a dumb retard

>has a microchode for a "penis" according to his many whores

The fact that you believe shit like this is just proof that you swallow all of your propaganda unquestioningly. Tell me, how does that corporate load taste?

Your sources only report negatively on negative issues and, most importantly, they always take the absolute least charitable take, because they've been on an anti-trump hate campaign since before he was president. It's lying through omission, exaggeration, and deliberate misinterpretation. Insidious because its next to impossible to prove a lot of it wrong - particularly when all of your corporate sources are effectively colluding.

You're a mindless drone.

>I cant prove anything so I'll pretend you're a foreign operative instead.
typical republicunt. cant argue, just shits in his hand and flings.

I’m missing what refutes or corrects

Don’t sweat it. News is more than just political shitposting. It’s a craft with standards.

So are lefties really afraid of trumpers throwing a coup? I cant recall how many times they said it would never happen because trumpers are supposedly pussys to fat to get out of their rascal scooters

I thought this was copypasta, but you’re actually serious. You sound like pol bitching randomly about brown people, except with slightly less intellectual rigor or charts made in fingerpaint. You sound ready to gear up and restart the civil war right now.

Im not sure how serious they are, whether it’s just seeking causus beli, whether they want more Micha X, or the 90s militia movement. The left, as in the SRA and dsa left lean accelerationist.

But there’s definitely mood makers in power in the dnc who are arguing nuclear political opinions. Adding Supreme Court seats. Removing the fillibuster. Going with the a new version of the HUAC. Think of the blm people who are convinced of kkk infiltration in every police department.

>As far as unhinged hero worship goes the democrat party doesn't and most likely won't ever come close to the absolute fanatical obsession that conservatives have with their exalted leaders
LMAO clearly you werent old enough to remember all of the "HOPE" merchandise and obama worshiping in 2008 -2016.

>If you're a human being between the ages of 18 and 55 and live in a major metropolitan city your default political leaning is going to democrat if for no other reason than the fact that you went to school where all the pages on evolution weren't ripped out of your textbook.
I grew up in San Diego and its that exact thinking that made me "right wing" to this day. lefties feel obliged for you to vote for them for no other reason in that they feel vindicated in their beliefs and get ass hurt when you aren't 110% on the same page as them. Then they start pushing the rhetoric that only crazy racist hillbillies vote right because they simply arent smart enough to see the value of shitty democratic policies.

Did Obama call up state election officials and ask them to fabricate votes for Hillary? Did he demand Biden and congressional Democrats stop the certification of Trump's electoral victory? Did he call on a mob of his supporters to attack the capitol after congress refused?

Thinking Democrats are in any way comparable to Republicans in cultishness or lust for power is fucking ridiculous.

Dude, the microchode comment was made as a joke although one of his whores that Trump had Cohen pay off with campaign funds did say on a late night talk show he was only 3" erect which means when flaccid would be slightly larger than a clit.

Trump called MSM reporting on public record information "fake news" when it reflected negatively on him and played the victim role perfectly, while in fact making absurd, ridiculous statements and committing well documented reprehensible actions that ofc were reported as they had occurred. I can't help the fact your rightwing echo chambers didn't report it or screamed "fake news, fake news." Are you going to try to deny that Trump lied 30,000+ times in 4 years too? If so, given your inclination to be a cult member, I have a copy of the Bhagavad-Gita, the Hare Krishna holy book I can give you.

>What? News has been for profit for the entire existence of the nation.
Largely, but from the turn of the 19th century, until the Internet, tabloids, editorials, factual news, and government propaganda, were fairly separated, with only the last two ever being blurred. Each had their own standards of ethos, and there were regulations in place to help ensure they were adhered to. The largest were loyal to the nation or at least its economy as a whole, before any given philosophy, as that was where their owner's interests laid.

Slowly but surely, those rules were relaxed. By the 90's they had all but evaporated, and now, with smart phones, they are extinct.

It is now truly a free market, and as drugs are cheaper to produce and more profitable than nourishing food, it has has no ethos about what is good or bad for the nation, beyond its politically motivated sponsors. It's almost entirely a competition among drug dealers. Nearly every outlet, left and right, exists to extinguish ideas and to trap people in patterns of fear. As a result, the nation is paralyzed to do anything of benefit for itself, and can only destroy itself.

We're a nation of desperate addicts, addicted to the universes of fear that our media wings paint of one another. We're addicted, to fear of one another.

I don't want to defend the shit the GOP has been doing, but they are merely further downhill on the same slope, with the other party lagging slightly behind. Both parties have the same goal: To eliminate all opposing philosophies, while containing all opposing philosophies within themselves. That can only lead to the extermination of all idealism. They no longer see each other as brothers in disagreement, they see each other as monsters to be eliminated. It doesn't really matter which brother started it, now that they are both hitting each other with rocks.

Social media is a lot like nuclear technology - it's something mankind came across before he was ready for it. Anyone and everyone can now manufacture an intellectual and emotional nuclear bomb, whereas the system has previously always depended only a select few large and self-checking groups being capable of distributing such things, and never anonymously. Now, we're all 7+ billion of us are invisible warriors, tossing nukes left and right on this electronic plane of existence, trapping everyone we can, destroying everyone we can, breaking every mind and heart we can, knowing the more exciting truth, shall always become the real truth, the deeper rabbit hole, is always more popular than the shallow boring one. That unmitigated nuclear war manifests in our material world, as Trump, as riots, and as January 6th.

>The Senate acquitted former President Donald Trump on Saturday for the second time, letting him off the hook
Acquitted once and forever.
Nice. Democrats are seething right?
What a dumb impeachment, he literally tweeted for people to go home. The only group you can argue that is responsible is twitter for censoring him.

His opponents don't realize they are handing him a badge of honor more valuable than any congressional medal. Biden did, the first time, as did Warren, but both seem to be even less able to inspire their party to see the consequences of their actions than before, despite Biden now being president, as he has no fire left in him.

The reason Trump seems to be made of Teflon, is any attack against his ego merely gives him more power, as is true of any good conman or reality-TV star.

The Democrats will continue to fail, until they awaken to that emotional dynamic, and stop acting like robots that don't understand human nature, thinking logic will somehow prevail, before the bottom line collapses underneath all our feet.

Only reason why Trump hasn't been prosecuted is both because he had the presidency to act as an aegis, or the corrupt Republican party to cover for him.
Unless the Republican supreme court pulls some ultra corrupt shit, he's not going to get that in the prosecutions from New York and DC. That's not even including the shit at the federal level.

He's rich enough to keep those cases tied up in court for longer than he has to left to live, in addition to being tied up in court over fraud and tax evasion for nearly his whole adult life. On top of which, he has donations from all his fans, ready at hand. A Gofundme for Trump's defense would reach hundreds of millions overnight.

People are just that scared of "society", and they either think their own party isn't part of it, or realize that Trump is its Achilles heal, and give not a shit what will happen to us all, when Achilles face-plants. The Democrats, meanwhile, just keep giving both those groups more and more emotional fuel, as if, somehow, if they make them afraid enough, they'll go away, instead of simply justifying their cause.

>What a dumb impeachment, he literally tweeted for people to go home

Yeah, after hours of refusing to help including basically telling the legislators that they deserved what was happening when McCarthy phoned him asking for him to call off the mob. Trump only told them to go home to try and save face once the legislators had already been evacuated and his coup attempt had failed.

Does it even matter at this point? Everyone is just going to cheat who cares anymore both parties are the same thing anyway

There is no real news, everyone is a biased piece of shit and should be regarded as such

I cant wait for those dumb niggers to smash up their own cities again, great watch with popcorn

lmfao the seethe

Baited me too faggot! Didn't read your tirades but you're retarded if you think that was a coup attempt, I fucking wish it was

What were they in there for, if not to stop the vote? Tea and crumpets?