I understand if you’re just not interested in seeing the Snyder Cut...

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I don't disagree with any of this, but I still think it's likely to be a more cohesive film than its predecessor.
Of course, I will probably never watch it so who knows.

nobody hates the movie. what's hated is the forced "omg snyder is a genius, movie will be kino" meme

I actually completely disagree, I thought Ragnarok was a fun ride. The plot was pretty weak but I think Hemsworth and Goldblum in particular carried it a lot through their on screen charisma.
The aesthetic was pretty funky, definitely could have benefitted from higher budget set and props though

To be fair, you have to have a high IQ to understand Snyder movies. His art is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of religion and philosophy, not to mention a truly deep knowledge of comics, most of the references will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Superman's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterization - his personal philosophy draws heavily from the gnostic Biblical teachings of Valentinus, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these references, to realize that they're not just fanservice- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Snyder movies truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the depth in Superman's existential catchphrase "Martha", which itself is a cryptic reference to Rand’s Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Snyder's genius unfolds itself on the silver screen. What fools...how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, I DO have a Batman V Superman tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

Also, I can't see how you think Ragnarok is worse than Captain marvel, which was a real wet fart of a waste of a movie

>fundamentally thinks that superheroes that save people because they want to help others are ethically immoral. He is drawn to the myth of the super special individual, but thinks that super special individual should only ever help themselves and is obligated to leave the rest of the world to die.

This is the most batshit insane nonsense I have ever read.

Clark was was arguing to help people his entire childhood.

His desire to help people was NEVER EVER shown to be in question in these films nor did the film's ever suggest he was wrong for wanting to help people, the point Snyder is making is that sometimes doing the right thing (saving people) can result in personal & non personal dowmsides that are at times worse than if he did nothing at all. The point is showing the concerns about those downsides wearing Clark down.

>But I'd rather you stopped shoving it down our throats and outright demanding that we sing its praises
Who did that?
>the fact that they had to do so many reshoots to get this version workable proves that. But synderbros can't accept that and will spin vast conspiracy theories of double-think to justify how their synder cut obsession was valid all along.
The same people approved the Suicide Squad re-edit wanted this to be more "fun".

kek

Ragnarok has BOTH more flaws and more pros than Captain Marvel.
It has the most numerous flaws of any Mcu film by far.

This the morbid curiosity of the insanity of it will make me watch it too. But at 4 hours I'll probably have it off before 2 if it's anything like the original.

I'm gonna have to take breaks. Godspeed to the crazy bastards that are going to watch the whole thing in one sitting.

You sound like a pretty based fellow, OP.

was right. Snyderfags and AntiSnyderfags are cancer

>Snyderfags and Snyder haters are both some of the most loathsome people I've ever met. Hell, your average Snyderfag on Dab Forums is as bad as any of Moviebob and his ilk who condemn any of the Snyder films for the wrong reasons.

Please do not conflate all fans/defenders of Dceu Snyder films as being the same as the retards obsessed with Snyder himself and think he is a arthouse miracle worker.

MOS is among my favorite films but I ackowlege it and Snyders other DC films have flaws and beyond that I am largely indifferent to his non DC films AND I personally don't care about the Snyder cut (beyond the chance to see more batfleck)
I personally wish all that fan effort went to pushing for Mos2 or for Affleck to stay as Batman.

I'd say that makes it better but I guess that depends on your outlook. What about Ragnarok got your Jimmies so rustled, user? Not a fan of memethor?

I feel like the set and props feeling low budget was an intentional design choice, though. The parts on the junk planet are very, very clearly aping the Flash Gordon style of pulp space adventure, and that genre was always done on a budget that might not even pay for lunch for the cast. I don't think that budget was a problem, I think they were intentionally trying to capture the feel of older cheap scifi.

Which I get why people would be mad about, but without that injection of camp and levity Thor Ragnarok would be a pretty grim fucking film. Odin dies, Thor loses his hammer, and then pretty much every Hela scene after that is murdering Thor's friends until eventually they have to blow up Asgard just to stop her and what remains of Asgard are some refugees. Thor already tried to do the dark, serious space fantasy with The Dark World and people *hated* it. The Dark World is consistently ranked as people's least favorite MCU film, or is the one they just forget happened at all. Even Age of Ultron is liked better and that one was so poorly received it got Perlmutter kicked out of the studio side of the franchise. Also, but the time Ragnarok was in production the Synderverse was already in motion and people were not exactly thrilled with that attempt at dark superhero movies either. It didn't take a genius to look at the pattern and say "Hey, if we make Ragnarok a moody dark serious drama, its probably going to fucking tank."

So instead we got tonal whiplash flash gordon adventures. Not what I would have done in their shoes, but it made back like 5 times its budget so what do I know.

You are profoundly full of shit.

The ONLY slight area the objectivism comes into his Dceu films are Superman's struggle to find peace. Him saving people males him happy but the downsides of saving them & the public mistrust wear him down. He had to find fulfillment elsewhere which was Lois. Having found that, he fully accepted his role as worldly savior before sacrificing himself against Doomsday.

Fuck me, why do all Snyderfags write like they're a 14 year old atheist in the YouTube comment section.

Ngl I didn't read all of this but the first paragraph I can see where you're coming from with the campy retro sci do aesthetic. I liked it too

You're problem is that you are just looking at one or two movies. Snyder has been doing comic book adaptations for decades now, all the way back to 300. That means for damn near every one of his movies we have a source material and we can see the changes he makes in terms of story and character. One or two movies could be handwaved as just being that specific project, but taken together Synder's personal beliefs shine through pretty clearly. The pattern of behavior he forces onto characters, NONE of which have that ideology in their separate original stories, is pretty consistent with the only exception seeming to be that one kids movie with the owls.

>Thor already tried to do the dark, serious space fantasy with The Dark World and people *hated* it

STOP FUCKING LYING.
I am sick of this asanine gaslighting retcon horseshit.

Dark World wasn't disliked because it was serious it was disliked because...
> It had TOO MUCH COMEDY especially in the final third.
> It had the worst villain of the Mcu.
> Portman was the weakest love interest of the Mcu and nothing of note was done with the romance or her in the film.

*Sci fi
Serves me right for being a phoneposting fuckwit.
I am low key gonna start saying sci do instead though, because that did make me crease

Why so angry, guy. It's a discussion about goofy movies on a Thai sock-hemming forum.

100 times this.

Not that user but maybe you're both right? Now I think about it, TDW wasn't as edgy as I remember. Maybe the problem is that the gloomy tone was the most memorable part of the film due to the reasons you cited, and that's why we remember it that way?
I actually kind of enjoyed that movie, but not enough to watch twice

Thor is my favorite comic character after Cap and my favorite stories of his are dead serious.

Thor Disassembled in particular shows a Ragnarok that isn't prevented and it's among the most beautiful tragic comics I have ever read. Pic related.

Them taking the litteral apocalypse of the gods and making it into a spoof/parody was a crime against the character & fans.

I am actually ok with Thor himself being fun (up to a point), my primary problem is with the rest of the film around him being spoof-ish.

And its getting even worse for me as the next film will partially adapt my other favorite Thor story God Butcher/Bomb almost certainly also with the parody tone.

I will share my full pros/cons list for Ragnarok in a second.

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There is no pattern of consistent behavior in these films.
Batfleck & Cavillman act completely different from both each other and Leonidas or Niteowl.

I remember absolute nothing but people complying about the quips/jokes interrupting the final battle, same with Age of Ultron.

Fair enough, I can see why you'd be mad about this.
Can you recommend a Thor reading list? I have only read God Butcher/Bomb. Incidentally, that was a stunning run of comics. How did Aaron drop the ball so hard after that? Has he written anything else good?

RAGNAROK

CONS!

> The film has zero emotional weight after Odin's death. The Guardians films get away with their humor because before Infinity War they had the most emotional impact of the entire Mcu. This had none of that balance. The entire time I was watching Ragnarok I was saying to myself "Gunn could have done this so much better".
> The humor is unbearably awkward and fake feeling, like a bad SNL skit. It went genuinely into Scary Movie/Movie 42 spoof vibe territory. The scenes with the Grandmaster especially.
> Hela is just as flat a villain as Malekith or Ronan but is given a pass because she is alot more badass then them.
> The sets and outfits on Sakaar look disgustingly cheap. Instead of celebrating the mythos (like aquaman did) and bringing Jack Kirby's designs to life they literally use his art as fucking wallpaper.
> Valkyrie looks and acts nothing like any version of the character in the comics.
> Surtur in the comics is a dark apocalyptic figure as menacing as Galactus, here he is a god damn joke.
> A major complaint against the first 2 films was them doing nothing with the warriors 3 and this film does the same but full on kills them off. People give Snyder crap for killing off Jimmy Olsen in Bvs but give this a pass, hypocritical cunts.
> Doctor Strange is wasted.
> Jeff Goldblum is wasted.
> Ruffalo is wasted.
> Karl Urban / Skurge is wasted and his death (one of the most emotionally powerful in all of comics) is done as a afterthought.
> The destruction of Asgard is given little to no weight. We could have gotten something tragic & beautiful but they pissed in our faces instead.

Age of Ultron is worth a rewatch, there's the bones of a great film in there.
Spader's Ultron is a lil goofy, but has good presence.
Particularly, his interactions with Vision are great.

Again, I'm not gonna read all this. Cool that you're so passionate about Thor I guess.
Well, not cool. You know what I mean though.

RAGNAROK

PROS!

> Skurge's outfit is perfect.
> Hela's outfit is perfect.
> Thor's design once his hair is cut is damn good.
> Odin's death was good, better then the original version with him being stabbed in a filthy alley.
> Gladiator match is good & Hulk's CGI in it is better then it is the rest of the film.
> Tessa is decent and has some fun mannerisms.
> Hemsworth is more fun then in previous films.
> The flashbacks to Hela slaughtering the Valkyries is visually fantastic and a cock tease of what the Thor films should have looked like the entire time (Lord of the Rings + Zach Snyder)
> Loki is still good and fun to watch.
> Elba is given slightly more to do.
> The "get help" joke is genuinely funny.
> Them using the music from the first film at the end was well done (until they ruined it with the rock guy thinking he killed his friend)

For comparison.

DARK WORLD

Cons!
> Comedy interrupts the end battle too much altho not half as bad as Ragnarok.
> Malekith is unquestionably the weakest Mcu villain and doesn't even have a cool or faithful design.
> Thor throwing the flimsy science poles at Malekith at the end looked silly.
> Not much done with Portman or the romance.

Pros!
> Thor's outfit is much better then his suits in Thor1 or Avengers1.
> More for Heimdall to do.
> Loki is fun as always and got more to do here then he did in Ragnarok.
> Kurse is cool looking and fairly menacing, him beating Thor into the ground was fairly brutal.
> Final battle is fairly creative with the portals.
> Frigga's death & funeral is great. Score is beautiful. Thor's reaction to her death, blasting Malekith's face with Lightning was great.
> A little bit more for Sif & the warriors 3 to do.
> Showed us more of Asgard, their technology and history.
> Flashbacks to Odin's father Bor should have been longer but were cool none the less and Bor was perfectly cast.

>Weird anger

AT&T increased the cost of Directv, Internet, Home Phone and Uverse TV to fund this Snyder autism.

>The mythical version of the film, a 'synder cut' that was 100% done and ready to release years ago but the mean executives wouldn't let you have it, never existed
Nobody ever said it did. Everybody knew the effects work was unfinished

See, your vision of a Lord of the Rings X Snyder Thor doesn't appeal to the more casual fans like me (and I use the term "casual" VERY liberally here)
Snyder's stuff is very "eh" to me, and if I'm honest I never really vibes with LOTR. fantasy played straight doesn't really do anything for me.

>Can you recommend a Thor reading list?
Jurgens run is decent to good. Inconsistent art.
Goes into a Injustice type alternate future for the last 2 arcs of it.

Disassembled is phenomenal.

JMS's run where Thor comes back to life after Disassembled is great as well as the writer who comes after that before, during & immediately after the event called Siege (which is required for reading here)

Fraction's run is overall weak to ok but his event Fear Itself which is very Thor heavy I find to be very underrated with damn good art.
The Journey into Mystery run around this period with Kid Loki was great and that ties into the final arc of Fractions run called "everything burns" which was very good.

Aaron comes after that.
God Butcher/Bomb = Phenomenal with phenomenal art.
Accursed = Ok/Meh with decent art.
Last Days of Midgard = Good with great art.
All the Fem Thor stuff = Decent to Good-ish (it's flawed as fuck but still better than some of the other woke comics of that period) with good art.

Basically read everything from Jurgens run to the present day.

The Walter Simonson run from the 1980s is universally acclaimed but I haven't read it.

> I have only read God Butcher/Bomb. Incidentally, that was a stunning run of comics. How did Aaron drop the ball so hard after that? Has he written anything else good?
I haven't read his Avengers and parts of it look fucking awful (odin showing submissive humility towards black panther) but the forming of all these different villain teams seems really cool.
We have...
> Squadron Supreme of America
> Russian "hero" team
> Namor's defenders
> Vampire team based out of Chernobyl

I hate this false equivalency and trying to create narratives on what being a fan or anti-fan means. The truth is the narratives created about Snyder are incredibly frustrating and destroy any conversation. His movies were divisive for a number of reasons from surface level discussions of what characters did (killing), to his lack of characterisation or his attempts at deep meaning.

One such narrative is that Snyder, and by extension some fans, created a narrative that people didn't like his version of things because they did not undertand it. And this narrative made these people by extension look like psuedo intellectuals attacking people for being too dumb. People throwing around shilling, people throwing around pleb.

These completely killed any conversation. Remember when fans were called racist or sexist for happening to dislike TLJ? It is a similar thing. When get so defensive they lash out. There is like no discussion to be had about Snyder anymore, it has all already been done. And the same arguments get made, like accusing people of not understanding it or whatever. There is this obsession that people dislike the films for the "wrong reason" and just act like people aren't allowed to have a subjective opinion on this thing.

Let me put it this way. Would you agree on anything Moviebob says on why a movie is good or bad? Chamces are, He'll like what yoy like, but he'll like it for the wrong reasons. Like oh say, liking Soul because of Diversity instead of the story.

Also Uncanny Avengers - Ragnarok Now

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I mean it’s ok but... then you don’t like Thor stories.

Watching people being mad about Snyder and fans is way more fun than Snyder and fans.

I haven't watched the Moviebob review in question. But the problem is people even with legitimate criticisms or flaws will often be drowned out by certain meme narrative statements about the film. It is a poor exercise. Even legitimate concerns might be compared to a Moviebob.

Really this is just another example of Internet socialisation. People often talk about freedom of speech in the context of left/right in the cultural war but fail to understand how much of human interaction now has been shaped by how we communicate online. More and more of this board has stuff designed to make arguments based on specific narratives or twitter comments instead of actually talking about the content involved. We don't see tone or intent so we all get angry at each other. People love to troll. And we often get wrapped up in grand or meta narratives about how things work.

i dont want to encourage twitter trolls

Finally someone said it. I haven't read the Thor comics but I felt really deflated by Ragnarok.

Nah, what I like about Thor stories is how the incorporate fantasy elements, cosmic space opera elements, superhero shit, and Norse mythology

>paying for that

Consider it an idiot tax

i'm tired of all the nobodies making me watch it

Not sure if it affects my anticipation or interest in seeing the movie itself, but my only problem is the way it got made. Snyder and the fans went behind the studios back and used all kinds of dirty tactics to add pressure and lit a fire under the WB's ass. Though, I also appreciate that something like this can actually happen, I've never been a big fan of rebels in fiction or real life. To me it just comes off underhanded and disloyal, but then again, the movie crew got fucked over pretty well too. Maybe, it's just the messiness of it all.

Anyway, I was so devastated after seeing Whedon's Justice League, that I'm certain, whatever Zack does in this new one, it WILL be better. It has to. And I personally need them to at least do justice to Batman as a character and Affleck as an actor, who both got completely blown to pieces.

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Welcome to Dab Forums, where anons would talk shit about the cure for cancer.

>But I'd rather you stopped shoving it down our throats and outright demanding that we sing its praises

Nobody does that.

>The fact that they had to do so many reshoots to get this version workable proves that.

They added new material to it specifically to make it easier to sell people as a new special exclusive thing on HBO Max , rather than a simple alternative cut. And Whedon literally cut a lot of stuff out, completely redid the music, reshot scenes dor cringe comedy quips and added completely new shit for the theatrical cut of JL, so the theatrical cut was never Snyder's cut. It was a bastardised version of the movie, which is why people are excited to see this version because it's far closer to what the original vision and intent was before Snyder stepped down due to his kid committing suicide.

Everyone just wanted a cinematic universe for DC. WB, DC, and fans wanted it. Then WB decided to get rid of the interconnected universe because Snyder's films bombed. He was the absolute worst choice to kickstart a cinematic universe when he only planned to do 5 films. And the overall doom and gloom in the movies didn't help public perception. DC needs someone like Kevin Feige. A person who's an actual fan of the comics and is in the movie business.

Snyder is better than Feige. Snyder has soul

Snyder is a fucking retard. He takes himself way to seriously and is unnecessarily dark and edgy.

Snyder somehow has some destabilizing effect on people. People who would typically just decide they didn't like his movies and forget about them instead spend years creating essays on how he raped their childhoods and ruined everything forever. People who would typically be entertained with a popcorn action spectacle for 2 hours instead treat it as a work of art, and spend years demanding that he be allowed to create some sort of majestic magnum opus that will be the crown of cinema. Either way, it's absolutely insane. I'm glad Snyder is just a movie director. With that sort of power he could be starting a cult or become a politician. There is an alternative universe where the election of President Snyder starts the second American Civil War

This is bullshit. Apologists constantly performing FTL backflips to defend and justify those flicks is the only thing that radicalized people.
If they just stopped trolling and proselytizing, nodoby would talk about them just like nobody talks about uwe boll

Ok man, don't suck his dick too hard. Nice trips tho

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The dark world sucked because it had no plot, not because of some theme choice.

le culture war. I’m serious too. Even though Snyder is super liberal, he likes a libertarian book and this is enough to make a lot of people side against him. Also it’s taking these characters seriously in sharp contrast to the more openly fun Marvel movies.

Imagine liking the butcher stuff

Some folks are just a little upset that it actually came out instead of being lost media they could hang over DCU fans in perpetuity

I initially didn't understand the devotion that the Snyder fans had for a supposed Snyder cut. But I was watching the Half in the Bag about Justice League and Mike compared what he assumed the Snyder fan reaction would be like to the reaction that Metallica fans had to them going to a more grunge like sound. The fan reaction then made more sense to me, even if I don't think it's going to improve by much, especially based on the Snyder BvS improving story consistency but doubling down on other problems.

>It’s not hurting you.
it actually is

yes, it's the people that don't like his movies that spent years making essays about them

>yes, it's the people that don't like his movies that spent years making essays about them
And tons of FB groups talking about how they hate Snyder. It's insane.

>waste of money
>dead end for the franchise
>linked to some kind of stupid culture war bullshit

>what’s with the weird anger from so many on here about it?
It's called blending in. Lonely people come here to feel part of something.

This Nolan/Snyder grimdarkstyle is a plague on comic book movies and shouldn't be encouraged.

1- It was sarcarsm, you spastic
2- It's a pushback against the proselytizing cultist
3- Bad movies/directors will be made fun of. Calling bad things bad is not "hate"

>It was sarcasm
But also a sad truth. People who hate something will spend years whining about it.

this is unironically how they think

Uh no?
Snyderbots spent years trolling the internet and what you see is just the pushback.
Stop being obnoxious and people will stop being annoyed

How do you read all that and never Simonson?

/col/ is simply mad that they got it wrong after years of saying this cut didn't exist and would never EVER be released. Now their final grasp at copium is "it won't be good anyway"

>X is just Y, shm
We accept your concession

But the cut didn't exist. They had to complete it for HBO with new content. That means it was never finished and a 'Snyder Cut' was never in the can.

If you say you have a car, it just needs another $20,000 to buy the rest of the parts so you can finish building it because its missing the steering wheel and a bunch of engine parts, you don't really have a car. You have a wreck that maybe could be repaired into a car with time and effort. You can't drive it to fucking work.

Zack Snyder had the chance to do something that the MCU and Kevin Feige didn’t do, bring in actors fit for action scenes, actresses wearing bathsuit and at MCU you just watch scenes of stunts doing all the job, actresses with no ass and those with tits they can't wear cleavage and many unfunny jokes, people don't like Snyder because he had the chance and threw it away He is not only an HACK he is also very dumb

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And it was deemed unwatchable by the test audiences...

>3- Bad movies/directors will be made fun of. Calling bad things bad is not "hate"
Not even Ed Wood or the guy that make the Underworld/Resident Evil movie get this much flack

It's retarded and the Snyder fanboys have not shut up about this failed cinematic universe for years. No one wants to see this rushed messy cinamatic universe from the brain of someone who thinks Watchmen is about cool heroes that are real

No one ever pretended that Plan 9 From Outer Space was a good movie, or that Uwe Boll films were anything other than hot garbage. Plan 9 is famous and has a cult following, yes. But as a B Movie. A 'so awful its funny' watch experience.

People actually do (or at least have dedicated years of their life to pretending very hard to make it seem so) think that Synder's films are somehow great just because they have muted colors and slow motion action shot. If people would freely admit that Synder's stuff is hot garbage that looks cool during the overdone fight scenes, no one would complain. Its trying to pass them off as some kind of intellectual high art that forces people to stop and go "Hold the fuck up, you can't be serious".

Because those are easily flushed away B movies, not highly anticipated 500 gorillion budget movies based on beloved by many generations 100 years old source material in the age of max genre popularity, locking the IP for many years and feeding a small but extremely rabit and vocal cult proselytizing the internet 24/7.
Can you spot the difference?

> extremely rabit

I know its just a typo, but still found it funny to imagine a bunch of edgy bunnies defending Snyder on the internet. Thinking they are hardcore with piercings in their floppy ears, wearing little shits advertising death metal bands.

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he is also responsible for the skeleton era in cinema

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Now I wish it wasn't a typo, lol

>that egg on stick that need a stuntman to walk and cgi to "emote" is considered a 10/10 by capeshitters
Let it sink

>It also doesn't help that the synder cut is a lie. The mythical version of the film, a 'synder cut' that was 100% done and ready to release years ago but the mean executives wouldn't let you have it, never existed.
and yet there are retards out there RIGHT NOW who believe this to be the case

Ragnarock >>>>>>> Capitan Marvel

Holy cancerous mushrooms Batman! you are one retarded nigga if you really believe this to be the case with Snyder

I unironically want to see the movie only because Snyder made Joker says "We live in a society".

Im happy its getting made but im without words as to why people wanted it.
After MoS and BvS, do we really need another dark and gritty DC movie? What mind blowing changes will it add to make JL a good movie? A teaser of Darkseid, a different look to Steppenwolf and a few more flashforward scenes will not redeem the movie, at least not for me.

I'm excited for it, because Synder is the spiritual successor to George Lucas in terms of making "so bad it's good" movies with a 100 million dollar budget.

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Absolutely this
All this worthless film has done is truly prove how absolutely retarded capeshit niggers are.

The cut didn’t exist.

I wanna watch it and I know it will be shit.
Just because I watched half of the original and it was one of the most cringy, unwatchable garbage I've seen next to Batman & Robin. And I kinda liked Batman v Superman.

I just wanna know if it's actually an improvement. The removal of the red sky during the city battle scene already looks a billion times better.

>Because those are easily flushed away B movies, not highly anticipated 500 gorillion budget movies based on beloved by many generations 100 years old source material in the age of max genre popularity
300?
>locking the IP for many years and feeding a small but extremely rabit and vocal cult proselytizing the internet 24/7.
Star Wars

>It’s ok if you don’t get it.
One of the things that annoy me is cultist who bring out this canard.

It's not worth my energy otherwise wasting any brain cells on talking about this waste of $70M which could have gone into so many other things, like omnibus or collections that will never see the light of day, a few less people being laid off, or a worthwhile mini-series, like a Kingdom Come four parter.

Probably when I get around to watching that extended ultimate superb director's cut of BvS, I'll also block another few nights to waste watching this extended superior magnum opus circle jerk but that's probably going be when Ezra's third Flash movie has finished its theatrical run....

the principal shooting of the film existed was done, but still needed touching up in the editing room. The only thing that Snyder likely added was that whole Knightmare segment.

I like it because it opens the door for the Ayer Cut of Suicide Squad, the Thor: The Dark World cut and the Lord and Miller: SOLO Cut. Every movie should be free of studio interferance and allowed to be an artwork, even a capeshit.

>do we really need another dark and gritty DC movie?
Joker>It's not worth my energy otherwise wasting any brain cells on talking about this waste of $70M which could have gone into so many other things, like omnibus or collections that will never see the light of day, a few less people being laid off, or a worthwhile mini-series, like a Kingdom Come four parter....
This the type of anger is why Snyder will never go away. Disney could've made a Better Star wars move but they wasted it to polish a movies that got backlash only to fail. The difference is that this is the few times the company back track.
>I like it because it opens the door for the Ayer Cut of Suicide Squad, the Thor: The Dark World cut and the Lord and Miller: SOLO Cut. Every movie should be free of studio interference and allowed to be an artwork, even a capeshit
This is why I like it JL movie was so awful even if the Snydercut is BvSs or even Suicide Squad tier it would be better.

Then what you doing in this board then, oh high and mighty bitch?

Which means that the Cut didn't exist. A Cut is a finished product. If I have a forest full of wood that I CAN cut down and I CAN mill into planks and I CAN assemble into a table... that doesn't mean I have a table. I just have the resources to maybe make a table if I so chose.
But Synder didn't even have that, because he had to shoot more material. Which is like making all of the wooden pieces for your table and then realizing that you don't have any nails.

>But Synder didn't even have that, because he had to shoot more material. Which is like making all of the wooden pieces for your table and then realizing that you don't have any nails.
>“People kept thinking, ‘Oh, they went and shot so much more stuff’ and I go, ‘We literally shot one scene, like one additional [scene]. I shot three days here. That’s it. That what we captured.'”
The only thing new is the Nightmare scenes

> It’s ok if you don’t get it.
Fuck you.

Because its a bad interpretation of the characters.

When people reward bad works, you get more bad works.

You're aware that no one on the internet is forcing you to do anything, right?

>When people reward bad works, you get more bad works
Captain Marvel

Because we are now as far from the release of Justice League as The Avengers was from Iron Man. The debateable quality of those movies aside, there has been enough time to wipe the board and start something new with these characters, but we're 5 years into trying to resuscitate a dead horse to flog and I'd like to see something new.